Eden_Warlock99
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Gogeta has that "dozens of times stronger than SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta", so I think he's currently the strongest 3U 2-C
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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no it doesnt
Eden_Warlock99
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We really should make scaling blogs about that then
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For GT, that would be Super Saiyan 4 Post-Negative Karma Ball Goku (At least 7.8125 quadrillion times into 3U 2-C)
For all of main Dragon Ball, that would be Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken x20 Post-First Ultra Instinct Omen Goku (125 quadrillion times into 3U 2-C)
SirAlex09
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Yep. I am surprised how big the numbers are and don't even know where they come from...
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sees a new dragon ball versus thread
Oh sweet
omega is automatically arguing against the DB character with pedantic arguments
Damn everytime
Oh sweet
omega is automatically arguing against the DB character with pedantic arguments
Damn everytime
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A bit random but is it possible to scale SSJ Goku above kid buu?
If memory serves right Kid Buu was pushing back the spirit bomb against base Goku, but after having his energy recovered he could overpower kid buu which would make him scale higher than him in that instance right?
Maybe im misremembering
If memory serves right Kid Buu was pushing back the spirit bomb against base Goku, but after having his energy recovered he could overpower kid buu which would make him scale higher than him in that instance right?
Maybe im misremembering
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i mean it was stated full power ssj3 goku could've killed kid buu so probably not, could be an inconsistency, or maybe the spirit bomb+ssj goku was enough to overpower him because the spirit bomb did have energy from ultimate gohan
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SirAlex09
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Just read the latest chapter of DBH. Vegeta killed Buu with an attack that destroys on cellular level negating all forms of regeneration.
Wtf why can't we get sh*t like that in canon?
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SDBH is basically the powerwanking part of the DB franchise. People watch it to see zany new forms, absurd matchups and crazy powers so whoever writes it has to put some more thought into it. Toriyama doesn't really care about that and just takes inspiration from movies and stories he likes.
As for Toyotaro...I do get the impression he is trying to incorporate some more powers with Ultra Ego, Moro, the evolved version of IT that Granolah and Gas used and so on but for whatever reason he hasn't really gone all in. It's possible he lacks the creativity for powers or maybe he's influenced by Toriyama (directly or indirectly) into not doing too much.
Who knows though, I could be wrong. I don't know Toyo or Toriyama and I don't even know the name of who writes the SDBH manga/anime/game.
SirAlex09
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Yep. I really appreciate how he is using a more diverse set of powers. He is taking a lot of inspiration from other mediums like Star wars, DC , Marvel and even Naruto. It would be great if he goes all in and also tone up the destruction level.
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The blog for Dragon Ball Cosmology its already completed?
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It's a work in progress to be fair. He's still in his omen phase.
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Which gives me some hope that Black Freeza isn't just raw power. I really really hope Freeza has some new abilities to go with his new form and some upgraded techniques. He's going to basically just be the same as on Namek if he hasn't gained anything actually new.
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Black Frieza does have a new ability. He can say the gamer word now, ke knows whose in paris.
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Guess that's the real reason Gas melted into nothing. He couldn't handle that raw Monster Energy™ exuding from Freeza or the Dorito™ dust-covered fingers that penetrated his chest. Man was already dead before Freeza could unveil the forbidden word.
But no really I know people just assume Gas melted because Freeza killed him with the chest stab and the rest was just natural but I hope Toyotaro reveals that's actually some sort of ability Freeza picked up.
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BlastX
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Nah, I don't think it works like that, probably when it comes to pushing the Spirit Bomb it works differently, Kid Buu struggled to push it back when it was an exhausted Base Goku launching it too him and it took some fight to fling it right back.
It could also just be the finale being flashier with it, with Goku going Super Saiyan to show he was back to full strength or to show off, nothing else nothing more.
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Scan? Pretty sure that’s Mid-High Negation and Matter Manipulation wouldn’t mind him having that at all
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Because this wiki does not accept anything that is DB, hyperbole is everything to it.
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It could just be matter manip
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Depends if the feat was done via ap or not
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If it was done via AP its usually just that unless the wording implies there was also deconstruction (like SDBH Vegeta vs Buu)
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Vegeta says the power of his Evil Ki will deconstruct Buu and negate his regeneration
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This is not regen negation.Vegeta says the power of his Evil Ki will deconstruct Buu and negate his regeneration
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This is the same logic as the Spirit Bomb destroying Buu on a level too powerful for his Mid-High regen, which got accepted as regen neg
Its regen neg.
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Huh.. okay.
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Yeah, as strict as a lot of things are on VSBW, regen neg is extremely common and easy to get for its lack of a profile
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Isn’t that like definition just a weakness of Mid-high??
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As per the leniency of qualification for regen neg, it just means it can't take out higher than mid-high regen
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I still need to read the entire thing but it seems like Vegeta is saying that he'll just keep destroying Buu on a cellular level if he regenerates, which doesn't actually negate his regen.Vegeta says the power of his Evil Ki will deconstruct Buu and negate his regeneration
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Buu is gone after that attack
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It's not accepted. The only regen neg Spirit Bomb has is in DBS scaling to Trunks' spirit sword
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Oh ok, it's just weird then, might be a mistranslation.
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