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can i have the thread? Or can you summarize the arguments?
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
- Thread starter Warren_Valion
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High 3-A DBz manga is not happening.
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Hyperbole GG.
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No not at all actually. They only get stronger when they near death and Goku was nowhere near that state just only tired. Everyone also knows that the spirit bomb is from everyone’s power + Goku’s using his own to push the spirit bomb
Explain to me then how Jiren used a bit more power when Goku used the spirit bomb vs when he was just fighting with SSB? explain how when Goku is getting beat down he then resorts to the spirit bomb that actually helps him win the battle?
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At this rate you're just arguing against the uncontradicted episode title
Different continuity, bruv
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….what
Bruh. what does the continuity have anything to do with the technique? let’s also not forget that Vegeta realizes that the spirit bomb was another win (or the only way to win) too beat kid Buu meaning Spirit Bomb > Kid Buu which as u could see in the entirety of the episode that Buu struggled a lot more with that then dealing with Goku….and if that was not even more shown then that Worldwide Spirit Bomb > SSJ3 so it contributed a lot more. Heck even when Goku was tired Buu was literally struggling which is even more evidence that the spirit bomb is more of the reason for the win (not saying Goku ain’t contributed)
BlastX
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Just pointing out that if Goku gained a huge Zenkai that made him stronger than Kid Buu as a SSJ1, him killing him with the Super Spirit Bomb doesn't contradict anything, because he doesn't lose anything by pushing him back and destroying him with it, so either way he wins, plus it be a spit in the face for everyone involved in creating it to just kill Kid Buu without it, it's the principle of the thing.
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Not interested in the wider discourse, but this is wrong. Saiyans are said to naturally get stronger as they fight. It's part of their Accelerated Development.
Near death boosts are just the biggest ones.
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How would he get it though. He all did was just get his stamina back and that’s it. And I know that the spirit bomb is the main reason why they needed to win, with Goku’s added strength it was made possible
The series likes to use that in certain arc/scenes even though it’s been said multiple times cause. If that was the case then Goku should had beaten Buu without the spirit bomb
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The series is admittedly inconsistent, but this trait appears repeatedly. DB Super especially.
Regardless, Goku vs Kid Buu hardly acts as a counter considering Goku was strong enough to win that battle. The issue was his energy was depleting too quickly to capitalise on anything.
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Interesting what does the extinction bomb do
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That was about Super Saiyan 3 and before he'd been revitalized
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Yes. Galactic Patrol has powerful stuff.
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Yes. What is the issue there? I'm talking about Saiyans getting stronger in battle, not the other discourse.
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So the spirit bomb is a giant ball and the user is ramming the giant ball at the enemy and destroys them when the enemy is " absorbed" (inside) by the ball, when the enemy pushes back against the spirit bomb, they're fighting against the momentum of the ball and the user, not the energy within the ball?
So when the user and the enemy are both contesting the ball, it's all up to who's the stronger of the two to see who wins right? Is this the reason that SSJ1 post revitalized Goku is > Kid Buu?
So when the user and the enemy are both contesting the ball, it's all up to who's the stronger of the two to see who wins right? Is this the reason that SSJ1 post revitalized Goku is > Kid Buu?
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Yes
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I want to do that but I'm doing it on my phone so if you'd like I'll help here. And I've asked about this feat here as well.
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No. It explicitly affects humans only, not saiyans. Plus Goku's heart disease.
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Seems like it
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From very sure, that it is not only for humans. It could be that the Galactic Patrol implicitly maintains the peace of the Galaxy using that help.
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This is the point whether all characters who have resistance to disease manipulation will be immune to all diseases? Or is that achievement only for certain diseases?
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Simple, heart virus is a layer > Extinction Bomb
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Bruh they ******* say Saiyans are immune to it in that panel
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Saiyans are immune because it literally says that one only works on humans.Bruh they ******* say Saiyans are immune to it in that panel
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Releases a planet-wide super-virus that aims to extinguish the population targeted...
...which has been stated to work on alien planets in the past. The reason Jaco cautioned that the bomb would wipe out only the humans on the planet is likely because he understood that Saiyans were ineffective, and his only "motivation" for wanting to use the bomb was to prevent warring between the humans and the impending Saiyan child.
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Imagine succumbing to a normal heart disease but are also immune to a super-virus 
Guess saiyans are just weak to heart viruses in particular.
Guess saiyans are just weak to heart viruses in particular.
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This resistance should escalate both the super anime and manga as well, I believe.
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Virus resistance is a meme, you might resist flu but nothing says Ebola can’t screw you up.
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It’s thee spirit bomb that’s doing 95% of the work. That’s spirit bomb > SSJ3 and Kid Buu since the latter was even struggling against it even with Goku’s exhausted power added to it and legit
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I mean the heart virus that killed Goku wasn't normal. We don't even know how he got itImagine succumbing to a normal heart disease but are also immune to a super-virus
Guess saiyans are just weak to heart viruses in particular.
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like there's a big plot hole going on here
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According to Trunks, it was an earthborn virus that humanity (not Bulma) made a cure for in the future, and Goku just so happened to be one of the people on Earth that got it. Many people have the misconception it came from Yardret.
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Really I don't remember trunks saying it was Earth born.
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