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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

I was MIA during the whole Beerus 2-C ideal but why the **** is Beerus and Champa not 2-C based on them potentially annihilating 6&7? Why is half 2-C a thing?

Like, they have Low Mutli range as well
 
Did you read why I chose the 2 minute time frame?

The time frame is objectively less than 2 minutes. I used two minutes as a low ball.
That distance is chosen completely arbitrarily and with no basis whatsoever. I got the distance using two canon sources for two ends, Bulma's time frame and the speed of the space ship that could travel to jupiter instantly.
The hilarious part is that the distance I got for both methods is almost exactly the same as the distance from earth to proxima centauri. The difference is a mere 1.73x less than earth to proxima for the first method.
Method 2's results range from 1.03x (which is literally the exact same distance) in the low end and 20x in the high end.
Actually, now that you yourself state that the timeframe should be lower than 2 minutes for the first method, why didn't you use other timeframe ends ranging from 1 minute all the way to 10 seconds?
 
Actually, now that you yourself state that the timeframe should be lower than 2 minutes for the first method, why didn't you use other timeframe ends ranging from 1 minute all the way to 10 seconds?
It'd be arbitrary.
It'll clutter the calculation with too many ends.
The time frame is very close to two minutes because right after the dragon balls leave, only 2 minutes remain but once they reach earth, namek is moments away from exploding, so it can't be one minute or less.

Edit: Oh yeah can you review the calculation? I find using perception blitzing to Goku and freeza to scale to this calculation an interesting method to upgrade the speed.
 
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It'd be arbitrary.
It'll clutter the calculation with too many ends.
The time frame is very close to two minutes because right after the dragon balls leave, only 2 minutes remain but once they reach earth, namek is moments away from exploding, so it can't be one minute or less.
I see.
 
I think the calc should preferably be updated with the 2-3 minute timeframe ends, and Proxima Centauri B to Earth distance (AFAIK the "Out of my Territory" thing from King Kai is anime-only). No other ends make sense to use here in the face of new evidence..
Couldn’t this work to upgrade the timeframe. It’s the exact same statement made in the anime.
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The scope of King Kai's cosmic jurisdiction:
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I hope they give Zeno a backstory where the multiverse used to be infinite until Zeno was born and his birth destroyed all of the universes in the multiverse except for 12 universes.
 
Even though this means that namek is in a different universe sector away from earth, both planets could still be at the borders of each sector. So unless we have confirmation of where roughly in the universe namek is and or if it's in another galaxy than earth then we can't really do much with this information.

There is the universe map which shows that namek is in a completely different spot from the universe but the wiki doesn't accept that map as to scale.
 
This is why it was literally mentioned that the distance between Earth and its nearest galaxy can be used, because it still confirms they are in different galaxies no matter where in said galaxies.
 
We sure that he's also referring to his quadrant in the manga?
It couldn’t be anything else
No, it confirms that they are in different universe sectors. Earth and namek can be in different sectors but be right next to each other on the cosmic scale.
Isn’t earth supposed to be close to the edge of the universe? If so it far more likely than not that it sits a few billion ly away
 
It couldn’t be anything else

Isn’t earth supposed to be close to the edge of the universe? If so it far more likely than not that it sits a few billion ly away
That's just speculation.
And said sectors are classified with galaxy or galaxies verbiage and it clearly distinguishes it by galaxies.
That's simply terminology, they call the sectors galaxies, it does not mean they are actual galaxies.
 
That's just speculation.

That's simply terminology, they call the sectors galaxies, it does not mean they are actual galaxies.
Only Toeiland and the Daizenshuu which I’m pretty sure is discarded here calls them 4 individual “galaxy” which are sectors of the universe (by saying things like there are 4 galaxies in total, or the universe is divided into 4).

For the manga, Herms98 has explained before how it can equally be taken as “North Galaxies”, and based on its interchangement with “North Area” and the DB Universe having many galaxies, it’s the more reasonable interpretation that King Kai describes the North Galaxies of the North Area, a verbiage for singular galaxy describing many of them is a nonsensical assumption to make without explicit evidence like the Anime/Daizenshuu. So regardless the conclusion that Namek is in a different galaxy goes.
 
Bulma calculated that to reach Namek with the fastest spaceship on the planet, the group would have to travel nonstop for 4,339 years and 3 months. The fastest spaceship in real life is 586,800 km/h.

586,800 km/h * 4,399 years and 3 months = 2.39191391 light years
The assumption of the fastest spaceship for DB Earth being the same as real life is is pretty unfounded, as the DB Earth's vehicles have been shown to be more advanced, such as flying motor vehicles.
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As a matter of fact, Bulma herself concludes after seeing the Namekian ship fly from Earth to Jupiter nigh instantly concludes it would only take it a month to get to Namek (it took 34 days to be exact), Even though it was blatantly seconds at most, even if we stretched it and said it took hours or hell an entire day, it still outspeeds 586,000 km/h by a notable margin, so the DB Earth's spaceship is evidently faster than the real world's fastest and this calculation is inaccurate.
 
Exactly.

Bulma, using her same previous knowledge of Namek's distance from Earth that she used to calculate how long it would it take the DB Earth's fastest spaceship to reach, concludes it would take an instantly reaching Jupiter speed around a month, which was confirmed when it took it 34 days. She bases her calculation of the Namekian ship and DB Earth spaceship off the same value, so it's still notably faster than 568,000 KM to cross that same distance in 4,399 years and 3 months.
 
Bulma calculated that to reach Namek with the fastest spaceship on the planet, the group would have to travel nonstop for 4,339 years and 3 months. The fastest spaceship in real life is 586,800 km/h.

586,800 km/h * 4,399 years and 3 months = 2.39191391 light years
I already calculated this months ago.
Only Toeiland and the Daizenshuu which I’m pretty sure is discarded here calls them 4 individual “galaxy” which are sectors of the universe (by saying things like there are 4 galaxies in total, or the universe is divided into 4).

For the manga, Herms98 has explained before how it can equally be taken as “North Galaxies”, and based on its interchangement with “North Area” and the DB Universe having many galaxies, it’s the more reasonable interpretation that King Kai describes the North Galaxies of the North Area, a verbiage for singular galaxy describing many of them is a nonsensical assumption to make without explicit evidence like the Anime/Daizenshuu. So regardless the conclusion that Namek is in a different galaxy goes.
No? He verbatim states "his (north) area" in the raws. And the four galaxy things exist in canon as well as the daizenshuu being canon. I have no clue how you reached the interpretation that he's referring to one of the many galaxies in the north area.
 
No? He verbatim states "his (north) area" in the raws. And the four galaxy things exist in canon as well as the daizenshuu being canon. I have no clue how you reached the interpretation that he's referring to one of the many galaxies in the north area.
This is misinformation, on the contrary he does indeed reference the 北銀河 "North Galaxies" in the raw.
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No, the four galaxy thing does not exist in canon and has never been described in canon.

That is not what I meant, I meant that 北銀河 is more reasonable to be taken as the "North Galaxies" of or synonymous with the North Area, because using phrasing that typically denotes singular galaxy to describe billions of them is nonsensical, and if we go by Super being canon, it's clarified there that 銀河's usage as "galaxy" singular refers to singular, standard galaxies.
 
Exactly.

Bulma, using her same previous knowledge of Namek's distance from Earth that she used to calculate how long it would it take the DB Earth's fastest spaceship to reach, concludes it would take an instantly reaching Jupiter speed around a month, which was confirmed when it took it 34 days. She bases her calculation of the Namekian ship and DB Earth spaceship off the same value, so it's still notably faster than 568,000 KM to cross that same distance in 4,399 years and 3 months.
I apologize if this is rude, but I cannot understand what you are trying to say.

Are you suggesting that the Nameless Namekian's spaceship and the fastest spaceship on Earth are comparable in speed?
 
I apologize if this is rude, but I cannot understand what you are trying to say.

Are you suggesting that the Nameless Namekian's spaceship and the fastest spaceship on Earth are comparable in speed?
Of course not, I'm saying that Bulma, who has predetermined knowledge of Namek's distance from Earth calculates with the knowledge of this distance that it would take a speed that she observes to cross Jupiter instantly around a month. Earth to Jupiter instantly level speed taking 34 days would make the distance from Namek to Earth a LOT farther than what 586,800 km/h would be able to do in 4,399 years. Does that make more sense?
 
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