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"Goku is finally starting to reveal his full power!"
already used Blue against the Trio of Danger
already used Blue against the Trio of Danger
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SSJB shouldn't have been used until the first encounter with Jiren honestly"Goku is finally starting to reveal his full power!"
already used Blue against the Trio of Danger
Right it was handled so poorly and if we were to do anything remotely similar it would be a problemyea it kinda was removed unfairly, akm shouldve just made another thread downgrading it like anyone else would
He most likely has been, but I doubt anything will happen regardless.surprised he wasn't reported
Shitty site standards saying multipliers doesn't work in tier 2.Hey considering the Kamehameha his 2x your normal AP (as stated in the 3-A AP Blog for DBS) shouldn't anyone of the Half 2-C like Gogeta jump to 2-C with it? Since you just need to twice as strong to Jump from Half 2-C to 2-C? Or is there some ridiculous counterpoint to it?
Here lies the problemSince you just need to twice as strong to Jump from Half 2-C to 2-C?
NoSo...apparently you can get Half 2-C by being half of baseline 2-C but you can get to 2-C by being twice as strong?...what?
Hey considering the Kamehameha his 2x your normal AP (as stated in the 3-A AP Blog for DBS) shouldn't anyone of the Half 2-C like Gogeta jump to 2-C with it? Since you just need to twice as strong to Jump from Half 2-C to 2-C? Or is there some ridiculous counterpoint to it?
But then we run into problems when we have two characters combined and having a 2-C feat and trying to find out what their individual yields would be.Shitty site standards saying multipliers doesn't work in tier 2.
You can be infinitely stronger than Low 2-C but still remain in Low 2-C
2-C while remaining below baselineBut then we run into problems when we have two characters combined and having a 2-C feat and trying to find out what their individual yields would be.
Beerus and Champa were the first examples I ever saw in my life.2-C while remaining below baseline
Isn't it there are characters like this?
Gods have ki control
The arena wasn’t destroyed while weaker characters could
They we’re holding back
It isn't about most people agreeing it's a about agreement of a few.Really, if the thread is remade with appropiate scans I’m certain most people will agree to the 2-C upgrade.
I really don’t like this kind of defeatist mentality.It isn't about most people agreeing it's a about agreement of a few.
You can try after defeat of almost 9 page of agreement in a few comments. We'll support youI really don’t like this kind of defeatist mentality.
Those were the pointsThe thread should definitely be remade based on the points above.
they then got spread out like buckshot over 50 yardsThose were the points
I understand how weird and "fanfictiony" it would feel, but it would make sense. SSJB is explicitly just Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, as its original name was. SSJG is technically a transformation, but the transformation just consists of a Saiyan having and using God Ki. That's basically what it is, just a Saiyan with God Ki. If a Saiyan combines God Ki and a Super Saiyan form, that makes Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, or rather, SSJB. So a Saiyan being able to use Super Saiyan 3 on top of God Ki doesn't sound unreasonable, though it'd certainly feel like fanservice, completely unnecessary, and also extremely unoriginal.Blue is ok, but I think something like ssj3 blue is a bit much
> Gods have ki controlAlso regarding the 2-C thread the main reason it didn’t go through was because of these arguments
the main counters people brought up
Th three lines of arguments were addressed but not in a comprehensible manner, and spread out over a 1000 post thread
In reality there were plenty of solid debunks for each counter arguments against the 2-C upgrade.
> Gods have ki control
Gods are prohibited from fighting under any circumstances, it’s deemed taboo in-universe because the destruction will inevitably result in 2 universes being destroyed. this by itself already implies that regardless of what they do the result is always going to be two universes getting destroyed.
Furthermore the one time we see a GoD fighting inside the normal universes, Goku has to actively nullify the Destrictive Capacity of the attacks so that they don’t destroy the universe further suggesting a lack of ki control from GoDs even at much much lower levels of power
> the arena wasn’t destroyed, it doesn’t make sense for GoDs to be going all out and not destroy the arena when much weaker characters could.
The arena was only destroyed overtime, and endured constant damage, by the point any one character is destroying substantial chunks of Katchin the three GoDs have already fought on it, 80 fighters had been spamming thousands of ki blasts for prolonged periods of time, it becomes highly likely the arena grew weaker so that non GoD level characters could damage it, and though the GP did state after the three GoD fight that he found which areas of the arena needed improvement, the ones who actually patched up the destruction left by the GoDs were the GoDs themselves, making it unlikely they made a proper reparation of the arena beyond patching up the holes they left on it
> But Champa and Beerus were bleeding and getting bruised during their second fight, unless GoDs get damaged like that they can’t be going all out
Thats the weakest of all arguments and it becomes absurd because there are a metric fuckton on of instances of characters getting their asses handed to them completely with only a little dust on their clothes to show for it.
Just look at the broly movie.
Nevermind the GoDs in the tourney only actually clashed with ki attacks so they never took any direct damage themselves.
And the first fight between Beerus and Champa didn’t leave them with any bruises either but it was stopped all the same because it was going to destroy two universes.
Really, if the thread is remade with appropiate scans I’m certain most people will agree to the 2-C upgrade.
I thought we already had one?We should probably have a 3-A anime scaling chain blog
Nothing beyond the initial BoG 3-A explanation featured in the DB verse page afaik.I thought we already had one?
Whis described the destruction of the universe due to moreso the power level SSJG reached being unprecedented, and even in that fight Beerus definitely shows Ki control.> Gods have ki control
Gods are prohibited from fighting under any circumstances, it’s deemed taboo in-universe because the destruction will inevitably result in 2 universes being destroyed. this by itself already implies that regardless of what they do the result is always going to be two universes getting destroyed.
Furthermore the one time we see a GoD fighting inside the normal universes, Goku has to actively nullify the Destrictive Capacity of the attacks so that they don’t destroy the universe further suggesting a lack of ki control from GoDs even at much much lower levels of power