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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

If Piccolo can grow really large, do you think that he could grow really small like Ant-Man and defeat his enemies in a really creative way if you know what I’m talking about?
 
Very late to this, but wild ride dbs is going through now.

turns out Jiren and Broly didn’t get retconed into being but instead toriyama followed the anime.

it’s really satisfying having confirmation that both canons have the freedom to scale the characters differently.

Tho, the movie also seems to be its own scaling as well. Jiren isn’t viewed as being beyond the Hakaishins and instead is comparable to Broly and the Other gods (which goes in line with Broly ~ Beerus).

The anime will have a totally different Broly as well if it decides to cover that, which will very likely elevate him far beyond the movie counter part.
 
Yeah Bandai is seemingly behind this idea of SSJ4=SSB, from heroes, to XV, and even Legends
Well, not that I oppose it. They just wanted to upgrade SS4's power so that it isn't left so far behind in terms of Power levels, they are doing this to calm some nostalgic GT fans who would be bitching about which transformation is better looking or stronger, or becouse it's their childhood, the same goes for Super fans, so Bandai is doing this to avoid these situations.
 
I'm fine with it as well, doesn't really bother me.

If we go by FighterZ as well, they also have SSJ4 Gogeta = SSB Gogeta. Jiren states that SSJ4 Gogeta on his level.

Legends has Syn Shenron as being above Golden Frieza (RoF) and SSJ Rose Goku black. Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Goku > Rage Trunks. SSG Shallot, SSG Giblet, and Nuova Shenron working together matching and slightly overwhelming Syn Shenron, where as SSJ4 Goku was sort of contending with Syn on his own iirc.
 
In game verse, Omega Shenron is fusion level threat. Also Akira and Bandai doesn't have power-scaler mindset. to them, from SSJ3 to SSB doesn't that much of a power up. DBH did made SSB > SSJ4, and UMX it seem like SSJ4 somewhat equal to SSG, or slightly stronger
 
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Majin Omega Shenron can fight against Super Saiyan 3 Cumber, who went toe to toe with Full Power Super Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker Broly, who could fight SSB CC Vegito and Full Power Super Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker Vegito at the same time.

Basically he's around Dark King Fu's levels of power
In almost every game, SS4 is on par with Blue.

Look, in DLC pack 14, from XV2, in Parallel quest 151, GT Vegeta fought against Blue Vegeta just in SS1(or 2)....imao, fighting an SSB just in ordinary super Saiyan, and then DBS Vegeta turns Blue Evolution and GT Vegeta turns SS4, both being pretty even .

But, what surprises me is that GT Vegeta just in SS was able to hold his own against Blue Vegeta
 
Yeah, they don't like having GT characters being far behind the Super level stuff. Outside of Angel tier and above characters, GT God Tiers can contend with the DBS Low to Mid God Tiers.
 
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