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Question, affecting different dimensions mean you are affecting space time right?
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Good. So that is why buuhan breaking the dimensional walls during the outside space feat means he's affecting space time.
That is also true despite the dimensions being under the same time and not separate time correct?
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good grief
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Alright thank you.
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Haha I already understand the feat well, I'm just asking to prove that the destruction is low 2-C and not 3-A. But that graphic is brilliant, I'll use it, thanks.
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He also implies Z Broly can one-shot the universe but the gods would forbid/stop him if he tried, and when asked about him destroying the south galaxy/quadrant in one shot and his fathers comment of destroying the universe he answered that he wouldn't be able to destroy the big universe but could likely easily destroy the small universe, with another translation saying "It may not be possible to reach the macrocosm, but it may be easy to destroy the microcosm".
Aka Z Broly could likely easily destroy the living universe but not the other universe/realms altogether at once.
Aka Z Broly could likely easily destroy the living universe but not the other universe/realms altogether at once.
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I know we can't use Author social media statements. But It's funny to think about
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And Buuhan is probably> Kid buu. W tweet W supervisorKoyama said Z Broly can beat Janemba
Broly > Janemba but that will not get accepted
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Really starting to sound like dragon ball Multiverse broly huh
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broly is koyama's oc
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It's mostly inaccurate but something caught my eye. He used the broly novel which has frieza stating that broly is the strongest in existence or something in just regular SSJ. So we could use that to scale SSJ Broly above Jiren. Is the broly novel canon?
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Angel-level Broly!!!
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The novel itself is canon, it is just a side material that expand some information that the movie can't conveyed
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Yes it is
Frieza doesn't know how strong are Beerus and Whis, but he knows Jiren’s full power
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Well basically what I'm getting at is, if we scale SSJ Broly to above Jiren, then SSB Gogeta and Broly will be 2-C.
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Yeah I agree, but that just means freeza got really strong but that doesn't make sense. Also Goku didn't have doubts about Broly being stronger than beerus. However, Freeza's statement is kind of unusable in the first place so I guess that scaling doesn't work.
Anyway, do you guys know where this scan is from?
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I already debunked that when someone tried to prove that Frieza didn't get stronger between ToP and Broly movie, the director of the movie literally said that Frieza in this movie will show a special development, so this is not a counterargument
Goku never said that Jiren was stronger than Beerus, in fact, the first opponent that Goku compared to Beerus was Broly, Goku thinks too highly of Beerus.
If anything this supports Broly being the strongest opponent in the series.
note that I'm not claiming here that Jiren is weaker than Beerus.
It does, but my stance was always "to wait for more evidence" because I don't think the evidence for SSJ Broly > Jiren is strong enough, someone can claim that Frieza was only talking about universe 7 because of xyz and etc, but it's all subjective and comes to which kind of evidence do u accept, someone might think that statements of this kind are enough to make the scaling chain, but waiting for clear evidence that Broly > Jiren is far better imo
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Kanzentai - Translations
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It sounds weird, wasn't it mentioned that he got weaker? while this scan says that his strength didn't change?
Also later from the same book it says:
That's weird af
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His base form stayed the same, but because Super Saiyan 2 relies on anger — at least in his case — he could tap into his full potential while powered up.
Whenever his strength was brought up, it was always something related to the fact that he had gotten rusty (i.e., Vegeta calling him out of shape) or the fact that his Super Saiyan 2 form was either weaker than normal (i.e., Goku and Vegeta commenting during the tournament) or just out of commission (i.e., Vegeta commenting during his battle with Dabura).
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Thank you flower man.Kanzentai - Translations
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He lost his battle sense but his base stayed the same, and his SSJ2 got weaker due to lack of anger.
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I got a question, this scan says that the living world is infinite apparently.
It's from daizenshuu 4 and apparently it says this. "And the darkness that spreads (expands) to infinity, and the illumination of galaxies, tens of thousands of light years ... Hundreds of millions of light years ... In addition to the stars where they can not even reach, there are countless monsters unimaginable."
So why does the wiki have the living world's size as finite?
It's from daizenshuu 4 and apparently it says this. "And the darkness that spreads (expands) to infinity, and the illumination of galaxies, tens of thousands of light years ... Hundreds of millions of light years ... In addition to the stars where they can not even reach, there are countless monsters unimaginable."
So why does the wiki have the living world's size as finite?
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Did u just realize this now
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This seems to just be talking about the Universe expanding to infinity which doesn't necessarily mean it's already expanded to infinite sizeI got a question, this scan says that the living world is infinite apparently.
It's from daizenshuu 4 and apparently it says this. "And the darkness that spreads (expands) to infinity
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the wording sentences is not in continuous form, it is from the "point of view" that when looking at the "darkness" of space, it "spread" into infinity
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Good point but I doubt it will be accepted since it can be interpreted as flowery language.
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But why does the wiki even have the living world as finite? I recall there also being another statement about the universe being infinite.
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There was a CRT on DB cosmology talk about out the Infinite size of the universe.
But due to people/mods not understanding how infinity can have an edge, the thread was closed.
But due to people/mods not understanding how infinity can have an edge, the thread was closed.
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How the hell can infinity have an edge? Nay when was it stated that the universe was edged?
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Bulma said the earth was located at the edge of the Universe(one of the reasons BOG God Goku isn't baseline Uni) and also the neutral space of U7 and U6
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Sorry I can't remember, what is the neutral space between U6 and U7? Also this doesn't apply to anime continuity and GT does it?
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