Vietthai96
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it not a form, but a state
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Ok bro, but you can't stack SSJ on top of it which means that a fusion of gohan and goku would have to be done in base to be able to turn SSJ.
Vietthai96
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Actually, he can transform into SSJ, but because Potential Unleashed already unleash his full power, going SSJ will not give him much needed boost and just strain him more
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Makes sense but the point is still the same, if gokan was gonna use SSJ against buu but kai said he doesn't need to because of the fusion amp then it would still make base gokan above buutenks and thus vegito.
Vietthai96
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The point is that base vegito would scale to base gokan (goku + gohan) who is above buutenks.
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Remember when Toppo warped the world of void? Goku and Vegeta do that exact same thing in the manga... In their base forms!
It’s here btw. Something for you guys to talk about ig.
It’s here btw. Something for you guys to talk about ig.
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Nullflowerblush
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Elder Kai never stated Gohan could not become a Super Saiyan afterwards; in fact, he stated he would no longer need it. The statement you are thinking of is when Elder Kai warned Goku not to be a Super Saiyan when they fused, as they would be stuck in that form permanently, and it would shorten their lifespan.
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What is this? A tier 0 Jiren scan?Remember when Toppo warped the world of void? Goku and Vegeta do that exact same thing in the manga... In their base forms!
It’s here btw. Something for you guys to talk about ig.
Yeah this is true. But my point is he said that they wouldn't need to transform into a SSJ after fusion implying that their fusion's base form is enough to kill buu, this means that base Goku + base gohan fusion > buutenks therefore base goku + base vegeta fusion > buutenks.
Nullflowerblush
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Gohan is stronger than both of them combined.
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Base gohan without using potential unleashed is comparable to Goku, if old kai mentioned the fusion using SSJ then the fusion must already NOT be using potential unleashed.
Nullflowerblush
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Gohan cannot just drop out of "Potential Unleashed" on a whim. It is literally just his inner power brought to the surface and amplified -- it practically is his base form, and he has maintained this level of power all the way to Super (Tagoma fight). And even if he could drop of his "form", why would he?
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Well you make a good point with the why would he thing. It's weird that old kai said that if Goku and Gohan fuse they'd be able to turn SSJ, maybe because Goku's potential isn't unleashed so they'd stack? IDK. But I guess point 1 and 3 can still be used to scale base vegito above SSJ3 gotenks.
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Alright I'm finally done, I made a Son Goku profile.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U..._Goku_(Dragon_Ball_Super)#Ultra_Instinct_Sign
I changed a lot of stuff not just the stats. So... what of any of this has any chance of actually being accepted?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U..._Goku_(Dragon_Ball_Super)#Ultra_Instinct_Sign
I changed a lot of stuff not just the stats. So... what of any of this has any chance of actually being accepted?
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This’ll be, what, the quadrillionth attempt?
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bruh
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It links to the blog showing the current accepted calculation for lifting strength and I applied the multipliers across all the show.
Spinoirr
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I brought this up before. It didn't get acceptedRemember when Toppo warped the world of void? Goku and Vegeta do that exact same thing in the manga... In their base forms!
It’s here btw. Something for you guys to talk about ig.
Spinoirr
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Now do a manga Goku one lol
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Redundant, the scaling ands stats are not any different, he's just weaker, maybe one for vegeta though.
Spinoirr
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Maybe
Nullflowerblush
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I love multipliers.
They're so fun.
They're so fun.
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This was brought up in a crt once and people called it light manipulation lmao.Remember when Toppo warped the world of void? Goku and Vegeta do that exact same thing in the manga... In their base forms!
It’s here btw. Something for you guys to talk about ig.
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Wtf? I guess warping space is light manipulation lmao. Too bad the WoV being infinite was a mistranslation. It’s like some idiot at Toei thought “eternal” was somehow impressive.
Nullflowerblush
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Y'all ready for the next Heroes downgrade?
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Does the first haven't ended yet?
Nullflowerblush
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It was concluded awhile ago. The pages just weren't updated.
But, I'm going lower than 2-C.
But, I'm going lower than 2-C.
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The question is how deep is it for you the word "lower"
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how badly do u want to downgrade heroes, jesus chrsit
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Super bad. He’s Nullflower remember?
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Wow, that’s huge
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Based
Nullflowerblush
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Really badly.
It's funny.
Something about that initial 2-A downgrade awakened a chaotic force inside of my soul.
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cant wait for 4-B dbh bro
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I needed to do this.
if they actually nuke the passives tho, that’s gonna be freaking huge.
Rikimarox2
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Can't wait for them to be lower than DBS or Z.
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