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I mean, unless people wanna say that Demigra & Co. attacks 's speed is > their own speed...
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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^ By an infinite amount.
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No, it doesn't, in either case, to get that much range, your attack need infinite speed or it will simply never ever reach that range.
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Except if that was the case every 2-A would be infinite speed since they can all destroy an infinite multiverse in some timeframe.
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Well if you are 2-A with some weapon or something like that the speed obviously doesn't scale to you. But that isn't the case here.unless, as I said before, people wanna say that Demigra & Co. Ki attacks 's speed is > their own speed by an infinite amount which honestly makes no sense in the context of DB
Also I agree with Nitro90 that this should have its own thread
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There are a lot of Infinite and potentially Immeasurable speed feats in DBH, like Demigra and the Mini Black Smoke Shenrons travelling into Beat's world through sheer speed with Beat world's being an entirely different space-time (in the case of the Mini Black Smokes, they travelled from the DBH battlefields to Beat's world, with the battlefields taking place in the past), Mechikabura swallowing up (in a finite amount of time) all of the infinite multiverse including the "histories", Chronoa sealing Mechikabura in a space beyond time, et cetera. I might gather all of them up and make a CRT with them.
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Outerversal to possibly boundless if beat's world takes db for fiction.
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I am waiting for the day 1-A to Tier 0 Dragon Ball is a thing.
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Why in the world would taking DB as fiction be 1-A?
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Yeah at most that would only grant Low 1-C.
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I nuts to butts support 1-A goku.
Nullflowerblush
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In the Victory Mission manga, Sora stated that the events of the Dragon Ball series actually occurred in Beat's world, and in World Mission, it's revealed by the Time Patrol that Beat's world is the future version of Xeno Goku's world (with Beat being Goku's descendant).
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Yeah but World Mission is literaly about how Silas changed the whole setting and did weird shit to the multivers and how he need to be stopped before doing more.
Also technicaly, if we get enough statement for the Crack of Time being above the multivers and nest of time, I'm pretty sure it would qualify for 1-C anyway so the real world is really redundant.
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World Mission is irrelevant because everything that happens there is an absolute mess that wrecks the setting. Victory Mission also has other stuff like Goku Jr's friend literally being Beat's classmate, but anyway, the arcade literally uses Japan's map intact when showing Beat's world, so it's clear that it's different from the Dragon World. Beat's real world is closer to an alternate universe outside of the multiverse than literal reality-fiction interaction anyway, so it wouldn't be Tier 1 in any case.
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You know that doesn't contradict absolutely anything of what I said, right? If anything, it just works as support.
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Boys.
Somebody made the thread I guess.
Somebody made the thread I guess.
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IMO, we should review our standards on 'muh conceptual' stuff because what a concept mean and is used as change from one vers to another.
Like if someone use 'muh conceptual' to EE someone and it has no difference with EE in any other vers and it's not stated in-universe that it's superior to non-conceptual EE, it should just be treated as baseline (hell, often 'muh conceptual' is the ONLY way to EE someone in those verse to begin with.)
Like if someone use 'muh conceptual' to EE someone and it has no difference with EE in any other vers and it's not stated in-universe that it's superior to non-conceptual EE, it should just be treated as baseline (hell, often 'muh conceptual' is the ONLY way to EE someone in those verse to begin with.)
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Shouldn't Beerus have sealing? He sealed the elder kaioshin sama in the z-sword.
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He has it on his page.
Also yeah, EE standards are weird in general, to be honest.
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Indeed you are right.
Nullflowerblush
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Why exactly is the Hakai in the manga not listed as Existence Erasure?
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Because of Schnee being weird.
Nullflowerblush
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Well, since that's the case, shouldn't Possible Power Nullification be added to the list of its powers, seeing as how Beerus implied that it was able to get rid of immortals? I mean, it seems like an obvious power to add.
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If Hakai can destroy light, would that count for a sub-atomic level of destruction?
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Anime Beerus's Hakai is already beyond sub-atomic destruction.
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It's mostly Toppo's feat but, all Hakai shins as well. It can destroy energy and Frieza's beam which is a beam of light .
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That is Void hax and Ki is vital energy so we cannot consider it as normal light IIRC
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Frieza's death beam is light. Ki is energy, right-mindedness, and courage, and there is a difference between vital energy and just ki energy (an example would be with Kikoho that uses your life energy and you can die from using it compared to normal ki blast that uses ki energy). And it isn't just hax ether, Hakai literally, destroys everything it touches.
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I mean, we had a CRT for that, all we could argue was Mid-High via being far above Boo because Demon Gods being Acausals means deleting them from history isn't a sign of High-Godly.
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You can't just get High for being far above Mid-High, regen doesn't work that way.
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Pretty sure that's not said on the standards. If it is, a lot of pages need to change then.
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Tell me a single page that has High because of being better than Mid-High.
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I don't remember about High-high but there's a lot of character who have high-mid for being better than mid.
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I told you to name them, so do it.
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Along with that scan, Belmod in the anime further reiterates that the Death Beams are light beams.
