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i see, was cool seeing it mentioned as far back as the pilaf saga, though
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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The page with Base (Teen?) Baby and Base GTku with a mini QnA?
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The monochrome page with all the baby forms.
I could make a translation, but I'm lazy af. Prefer working on translating the whole thing later on.
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If you mean this page, this is like, 68. (No wonder I couldn't find it!) But also, I don't see anything on it that says how strong SSJ4 is. The closest you can get is that it says Golden Oozaru exceeds SSJ4 Goku, and that based on his appearance, he's an evolved SSJ.
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I think you got the page wrong.
In the PTBR translation they made, it also doesn't mention anything much.
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I talk of the text close to Baby Vegeta 2, where it says that it can be compared to a SSJ3.
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That's...huh? Yeah, SB2 is ~ his SSJ3, but that doesn't imply that Golden Oozaru uses SSJ3 as a base. While SB2 turned into a Golden Oozaru directly, that's because he constantly is in a SSJ3 state as his new "Base" Form. (Ala Cell and Merged Zamasu). The only other people to achieve the state were straight up in Base Form (Vegeta and Goku) so I don't see what you mean.
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That text next to Ozaro only says that Baby's Tsufurudin + Saiyan (SSJ Ozaro) power surpasses Goku's SSJ4 power.
And at the end it says "Looking at his golden fur, it seems that he should be considered an evolved SSJ warrior"
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The G. Oozaru has the same hairstyle as SB2, meaning that it's using that as base tbh.
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I mean, even if we accepted that as the case because of Baby's unique circumstances, that would mean that you just multiply 400x on the hypothetical multiplier of SSJ4, because that's not nearly the same thing as the rest of the Golden Oozarus and how they function (plus it's not a direct statement).
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There's simply 0 reason to assume that Goku's Oozaru is any different tbf...
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And then he'll exact his vengeance and downgrade DBZ
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i mean, if the logic is the hairstyle, then wouldn't his have SSJ3's hairstyle instead of SSJ1's?
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Anyway sorry if my answers seemed lackluster here, not really in the mood of arguing rn.
Nullflowerblush
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uhhhhhhhhhm
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btw is Zamasu's White hair a new transformation or? like, if it is Rose.......why isn't it pink?
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Any side effects from fusing with a non-Saiyan?
Like, apart from Zamasu, we've always seen Saiyans fuse. We never really see how the SSJ transformation behaves when fused with someone who isn't a Saiyan.
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I stand by the idea he's in a constant state of SSJ (and as Super Perfect, SSJ2).
It is Rosé, but his hair is white due to Future Zamasu's White Hair.
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Is that like, comfirmed?
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isn't that the case anyway?
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Who changed the Images of DBS Anime Goku's MUI Forms they look like shit 
Killerdrone123
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Hell no
RoninSlayer200
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I can understand MUI but UI Sign is perfect
Nullflowerblush
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The previous images sucked, but the current images are not cropped properly; and the Ultra Instinct render stinks. Too active of a pose.
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eh.. i loved mui
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COME ON
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The mui render previously was dbfz one 
It was goofy
It was goofy
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i meant the one from the animeThe mui render previously was dbfz one
It was goofy
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This MUI render is tuff though 
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the best image is the one of Goku made by Toyotaro, on the Goku DBS profile (manga)
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What? It was a good render, the current one is quite blurryThe mui render previously was dbfz one
It was goofy
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