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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

The Dragon Ball GT Perfect Files are a pretty niche couple of Databooks which were not sold anywhere outside of Japan and Italy.

Me and @Ottavio_Merluzzo can help with that.
Which page are you referencing? So I can see if I can get the raws TL'd.
All that without taking into account the "full power" version of SSJ4
Or the Super Full Power, either, which further increases his power.
 
Me.

I would want for torture porpuses, see how I can make a soul scream in pain.
And then he'll exact his vengeance and downgrade DBZ

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oolong says "what is he an alien?" in chapter 23
did akira intend on making goku an alien all along? or was it planned later?
 


If you mean this page, this is like, 68. (No wonder I couldn't find it!) But also, I don't see anything on it that says how strong SSJ4 is. The closest you can get is that it says Golden Oozaru exceeds SSJ4 Goku, and that based on his appearance, he's an evolved SSJ.
 
Page 41, Vol. 1.
The monochrome page with all the baby forms.

I could make a translation, but I'm lazy af. Prefer working on translating the whole thing later on.

I think you got the page wrong.

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If you mean this page, this is like, 68. But also, I don't see anything on it that says how strong SSJ4 is. The closest you can get is that it says Golden Oozaru exceeds SSJ4 Goku, and that based on his appearance, he's an evolved SSJ.

In the PTBR translation they made, it also doesn't mention anything much.

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If you mean this page, this is like, 68. (No wonder I couldn't find it!) But also, I don't see anything on it that says how strong SSJ4 is. The closest you can get is that it says Golden Oozaru exceeds SSJ4 Goku, and that based on his appearance, he's an evolved SSJ.
I talk of the text close to Baby Vegeta 2, where it says that it can be compared to a SSJ3.
 
I talk of the text close to Baby Vegeta 2, where it says that it can be compared to a SSJ3.
That's...huh? Yeah, SB2 is ~ his SSJ3, but that doesn't imply that Golden Oozaru uses SSJ3 as a base. While SB2 turned into a Golden Oozaru directly, that's because he constantly is in a SSJ3 state as his new "Base" Form. (Ala Cell and Merged Zamasu). The only other people to achieve the state were straight up in Base Form (Vegeta and Goku) so I don't see what you mean.
 
I talk of the text close to Baby Vegeta 2, where it says that it can be compared to a SSJ3.
That text next to Ozaro only says that Baby's Tsufurudin + Saiyan (SSJ Ozaro) power surpasses Goku's SSJ4 power.

And at the end it says "Looking at his golden fur, it seems that he should be considered an evolved SSJ warrior"
 
That's...huh? Yeah, SB2 is ~ his SSJ3, but that doesn't imply that Golden Oozaru uses SSJ3 as a base. While SB2 turned into a Golden Oozaru directly, that's because he constantly is in a SSJ3 state as his new "Base" Form. (Ala Cell and Merged Zamasu).
The G. Oozaru has the same hairstyle as SB2, meaning that it's using that as base tbh.
 
I mean, even if we accepted that as the case because of Baby's unique circumstances, that would mean that you just multiply 400x on the hypothetical multiplier of SSJ4, because that's not nearly the same thing as the rest of the Golden Oozarus and how they function (plus it's not a direct statement).
 
I mean, even if we accepted that as the case because of Baby's unique circumstances, that would mean that you just multiply 400x on the hypothetical multiplier of SSJ4, because that's not nearly the same thing as the rest of the Golden Oozarus and how they function (plus it's not a direct statement).
There's simply 0 reason to assume that Goku's Oozaru is any different tbf...
 
That's...huh? Yeah, SB2 is ~ his SSJ3, but that doesn't imply that Golden Oozaru uses SSJ3 as a base. While SB2 turned into a Golden Oozaru directly, that's because he constantly is in a SSJ3 state as his new "Base" Form. (Ala Cell and Merged Zamasu). The only other people to achieve the state were straight up in Base Form (Vegeta and Goku) so I don't see what you mean.
btw is Zamasu's White hair a new transformation or? like, if it is Rose.......why isn't it pink?
 
btw is Zamasu's White hair a new transformation or? like, if it is Rose.......why isn't it pink?
Any side effects from fusing with a non-Saiyan?

Like, apart from Zamasu, we've always seen Saiyans fuse. We never really see how the SSJ transformation behaves when fused with someone who isn't a Saiyan.
 
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