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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

Sus said:
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WHAT?
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Bulma why did you say that
 
I am purposely not touching the stats right now, because when I checked the scaling page I was…er…considering…Working those out more. Though, I guess infinite speed is infinite speed regardless, hm?
 
Sus said:
how big is it? i didn't watch GT
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So, Goku goes all the way to SSJ3 to fight SSJ Baby Vegeta, and BV has advantage. Then, after Goku gets beaten down, Baby Vegeta goes SSJ2 (Super Baby 1) and SSJ3 (Super Baby 2 is directly said to be in direct resemblance to SSJ3). That's 3200x the SSJ3 buff, or 160,000x off the bat. Then Goku becomes the Golden Oozaru and stomps SB2, and then goes SSJ4. However, the important thing to note is when BABY goes Golden Oozaru, Goku as a SSJ4 is still as powerful as him. (Though slightly weaker/at disadvantage). Meaning that the process of becoming SSJ4 after Golden Oozaru gives a power boost roughly as equivalent to going Golden Oozaru in itself? Which is insane to me.

This ludicrious power jump is doubled down on in the Shadow Dragons Saga, as when Vegeta goes up to SSJ4, he becomes as powerful as (Tired) Goku despite his base form disadvantage, and as a Golden Oozaru could harm him. This is after progressing through GT and growing in power considerably (though admittedly Vegeta was training offscreen, so it's totally feasible he covered the power gap in that time, even if it's never hinted at.)
 
RedReaper616 said:
So, Goku goes all the way to SSJ3 to fight SSJ Baby Vegeta, and BV has advantage. Then, after Goku gets beaten down, Baby Vegeta goes SSJ2 (Super Baby 1) and SSJ3 (Super Baby 2 is directly said to be in direct resemblance to SSJ3). That's 3200x the SSJ3 buff, or 160,000x off the bat. Then Goku becomes the Golden Oozaru and stomps SB2, and then goes SSJ4. However, the important thing to note is when BABY goes Golden Oozaru, Goku as a SSJ4 is still as powerful as him. (Though slightly weaker/at disadvantage). Meaning that the process of becoming SSJ4 after Golden Oozaru gives a power boost roughly as equivalent to going Golden Oozaru in itself? Which is insane to me.

This ludicrious power jump is doubled down on in the Shadow Dragons Saga, as when Vegeta goes up to SSJ4, he becomes as powerful as (Tired) Goku despite his base form disadvantage, and as a Golden Oozaru could harm him. This is after progressing through GT and growing in power considerably (though admittedly Vegeta was training offscreen, so it's totally feasible he covered the power gap in that time, even if it's never hinted at.)
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this makes sense, i did hear about it being a dynamic amp
RedReaper616 said:
I thought that was a dub only line? Because from what I know of the Perfect Files, it states SSJ4 is a "potential unlock" and not a multiplier.
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yeah Funimation dub only
 
RedReaper616 said:
So, Goku goes all the way to SSJ3 to fight SSJ Baby Vegeta, and BV has advantage. Then, after Goku gets beaten down, Baby Vegeta goes SSJ2 (Super Baby 1) and SSJ3 (Super Baby 2 is directly said to be in direct resemblance to SSJ3). That's 3200x the SSJ3 buff, or 160,000x off the bat. Then Goku becomes the Golden Oozaru and stomps SB2, and then goes SSJ4. However, the important thing to note is when BABY goes Golden Oozaru, Goku as a SSJ4 is still as powerful as him. (Though slightly weaker/at disadvantage). Meaning that the process of becoming SSJ4 after Golden Oozaru gives a power boost roughly as equivalent to going Golden Oozaru in itself? Which is insane to me.

This ludicrious power jump is doubled down on in the Shadow Dragons Saga, as when Vegeta goes up to SSJ4, he becomes as powerful as (Tired) Goku despite his base form disadvantage, and as a Golden Oozaru could harm him. This is after progressing through GT and growing in power considerably (though admittedly Vegeta was training offscreen, so it's totally feasible he covered the power gap in that time, even if it's never hinted at.)
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All that without taking into account the "full power" version of SSJ4
 
StrymULTRA said:
The Dragon Ball GT Perfect Files are a pretty niche couple of Databooks which were not sold anywhere outside of Japan and Italy.

Me and @Ottavio_Merluzzo can help with that.
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Which page are you referencing? So I can see if I can get the raws TL'd.
omegabronic said:
All that without taking into account the "full power" version of SSJ4
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Or the Super Full Power, either, which further increases his power.
 
oolong says "what is he an alien?" in chapter 23
did akira intend on making goku an alien all along? or was it planned later?
 
Sus said:
oolong says "what is he an alien?" in chapter 23
did akira intend on making goku an alien all along? or was it planned later?
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Toriyama only made Goku an alien after he already started working on/planning Vegeta (so the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai).
 
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