Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[Phsccarvalho]

and they are not other dimensions of time

Bro, this is literally said.

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

That it wasn't just throwing out a word, there's just because.
because if they took the time to explain time travel, they can take the time to explain why there is another time dimension, instead of making it seem like it's just a space and time dimension with another flow of time.

My guy, a world with a different time flow doesn’t contradict it being a world with a different dimension of time. Both of them can simultaneously true.

Where is the different dimension of time in a world where time passes faster? Many universes have this, it is not another dimension of time, it is just that time moves faster.

Uh, I don’t know man. Perhaps the exact statement that tells us it’s a world with a different dimension of time? Dunno though, I might be looking too deep into it.

hypertime is a exclusive concept from DC, No verse should have it (and I say this as a fan of Sonic, I don't like that it has it, by the way, neither should Ben 10, nor GOW, nor any verse in my opinion) and that Dragon Ball It has the problem that it puts all the space and time in the 12 universes.

You’re fine to think that way, but we have standards of what qualifies for a timeline with 2-time dimensions in the FAQ. There’s a whole blog dedicated to showing how DB fulfills each part. And the timeline themself having space-time continuums with different dimensions of time. If you decide to give those a look and understand it won’t come off as an argument from ignorance though.

 

[Alexander]

Bro, this is literally said.

Yes, just another dimension with a different space and time, in fact Goku not being able to sense ki shows that he can only sense the ki of beings in the same space and time.

 

[Alexander]

You’re fine to think that way, but we have standards of what qualifies for a timeline with 2-time dimensions in the FAQ. There’s a whole blog dedicated to showing how DB fulfills each part. And the timeline themself having space-time continuums with different dimensions of time. If you decide to give those a look and understand it won’t come off as an argument from ignorance though.

Well, I'm honest, the only reason I think they apply it now is because they wanted to do it for Dragon Ball and many other verses (I repeat, I don't want that even for Sonic)

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Yes, just another dimension with a different space and time, in fact Goku not being able to sense ki shows that he can only sense the ki of beings in the same space and time.

my dude....if mental gymnastics was an Olympic sports this year you'd be the gold medalist by far....

 

[CelestialVortex01]

my dude....if mental gymnastics was an Olympic sports this year you'd be the gold medalist by far....

I'm being manipulated

 

[RenderGK]

my dude....if mental gymnastics was an Olympic sports this year you'd be the gold medalist by far....

definitely

 

[Alexander]

yes, you are simply saying that one verse must work like the other for it to be good.

no, just applied the concept well, ok?

If we ask fiction to apply certain things well to history (like war, depression, love, etc.), why can't we ask them to apply something like this well?

and that is a biased opinion

Everyone has biased opinions in this world for better or worse.

This is a double standard since some verse works as the creator wants, not as another verse that you like.

and those creators do it well

and in DB it is fine in its verse, you using another verse simply says that you cannot say why it is wrong in DB without having to resort to another verse is bruh

I repeat the above, if one story applies the romance well, and the other does it badly, then what is it?

 

[RanHover60]

Bro what’s Yonic the yaphog doing here

 

[Alexander]

my dude....if mental gymnastics was an Olympic sports this year you'd be the gold medalist by far....

I? I think there are many people who would beat me, I wouldn't even reach the top 100

 

[RenderGK]

no, just applied the concept well, ok?

If we ask fiction to apply certain things well to history (like war, depression, love, etc.), why can't we ask them to apply something like this well?


Everyone has biased opinions in this world for better or worse.

and those creators do it well

I repeat the above, if one story applies the romance well, and the other does it badly, then what is it?

How you apply these concepts well depends on your world, not another verse, this can vary as the world is formed in fiction.

not using another verse, again biased opinion

and you are deviating from the topic, putting in things that are not relevant.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

a Wiki eh, I already remembered that they told me that this wiki FSL is terrible in its level qualification, according to what is

Well, I can see why now. I'd take Matthew Schroeder over this. At least he was being like that on purpose.

 

[Ryzen7900X]

I? I think there are many people who would beat me, I wouldn't even reach the top 100

in this conversation? no you'd set a record. you're like freaking Magnus Carlsen of mental gymnastics

 

[Alexander]

How you apply these concepts well depends on your world, not another verse, this can vary as the world is formed in fiction.

It's actually something very basic about stories, if there is romance, you have to develop it, if you don't, you applied romance wrong.

not using another verse, again biased opinion

I already said it, we are all biased

and you are deviating from the topic, putting in things that are not relevant.

mmm

 

[Alexander]

in this conversation? no you'd set a record. you're like freaking Magnus Carlsen of mental gymnastics

who?

 

[RenderGK]

It's actually something very basic about stories, if there is romance, you have to develop it, if you don't, you applied romance wrong.

I already said it, we are all biased

mmm

And depending on how it is done, it is fine, and how the romance turns out, not all are the same in fiction.

Why one does it in a different way or manner is not bad.

And again, an irrelevant topic that does not help you at all.

 

[Omegabronic]

.......drama in the DB tread again eh? what's new

 

[Alexander]

And depending on how it is done, it is fine, and how the romance turns out, not all are the same in fiction.

yeah, if it is done well and not done...porly.

Why one does it in another way is wrong.

obviosly

And again, an irrelevant topic that does not help you at all.

whatever you say Ren

 

[RenderGK]

obviosly

Read it again, and as I said, do it another way, it's not bad.

 

[RenderGK]

......drama in the DB tread again eh? what's new

Do you want popcorn for the drama? Or maybe we'll just leave this because it's kind of pointless

 

[Ryzen7900X]

didn't know Omega spoke Spanish

 

[Fezzih_007]

didn't know Omega spoke Spanish

Well, he speaks portuguese, so of course he can speak spanish.

 

[Alexander]

Well, he speaks portuguese, so of course he can speak spanish.

yo puedo hablar español y no por eso significa que se portugués (i can speak spanish but that does not mean i can understand portuguese)

 

[ChoursDropoff]

What does this even mean.

There is no evidence of a hyper-timeline concept in the Dragon Ball cosmology and the entire notion of it is derived from fringe wacky speculation based on what we DO know about the cosmology (mixed with tiering system and theoretical physics principles that are accepted on the wiki) and basically attempting to add context to it to justify the end result, in summary. It's something I'd expect a 1.7k subscriber Dragon Ball powerscaler with an AI voice to claim for shock value to get clicks, so I was pretty surprised to see it being applied to Vs. Battles Wiki but I guess we take anything these days if the argument sounds fancy or something. The fing "Power>Hax" argument unironically has MORE credibility and substance to it than the hyper-timeline argument which has not a single, tiny piece of evidence to support it. It is a literal theory if not hypothetical that is being accepted as a fact and a huge miscontextualization of actual known knowledge about the DB verse.

But I digress cause talking about it isn't worth my time tbh but enjoy it if you do.

There’s a whole explanation page dedicated to telling you what the as ryzen said it’s one of the most blatant examples on the wiki. Matter a fact I’d argue it’s the only blatant example on the wiki. This is the same thinking people use to make anything above tier 3 seem too inconsistent for the wiki.

Or more like the greatest example of bias and fans.
Come on, there was no statements of hypertimelines in Dragón Ball ever

this makes no sense that’s the equivalent of saying “Toriyama never wrote the words there’s a low multiverse in universe 7” so they shouldn’t qualify. Not everything must be spoon fed to you.

 

[Alexander]

this makes no sense that’s the equivalent of saying “Toriyama never wrote the words there’s a low multiverse in universe 7” so they shouldn’t qualify. Not everything must be spoon fed to you.

bad example, those words a re things obviosly no one will know, but if you are going to apply something but you don't neccesarely have the words for this, then do it but do it well

 

[Worthless]

DB was born to be low 1-C.

This is kinda cringe to say when If it weren’t for the new system within this site, that wouldn’t have happened. Also, how many times has this hypertimeline appeared?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

This is kinda cringe to say when If it weren’t for the new system within this site, that wouldn’t have happened. Also, how many times has this hypertimeline appeared?

We have always had a lot of evidence about this, but with changes to the system it has become easier to achieve.

 

[Fezzih_007]

yo puedo hablar español y no por eso significa que se portugués (i can speak spanish but that does not mean i can understand portuguese)

É que só o oposto é verdade, a pessoa sabe falar português então ela sabe falar espanhol, mas se a pessoa fala espanhol, ela não vai saber português.


(It's just that the opposite is true, the person knows how to speak Portuguese so they know how to speak Spanish, but if the person speaks Spanish, they won't know Portuguese)

 

[Ryzen7900X]

where are all these new people coming from?

 

[Ryzen7900X]

This is kinda cringe to say when If it weren’t for the new system within this site, that wouldn’t have happened.

pretty sure he was joking (because if he was serious that means he'd prevent any further upgrades because he genuinely believes its born to be low 1-C, but as we know that wouldn't happen). you took it too seriously.

Also, how many times has this hypertimeline appeared?

irrelevant, also a really strange thing to say

 

[Worthless]

We have always had a lot of evidence about this, but with changes to the system it has become easier to achieve.

For something as seemingly big as this not to be widely talked about is quite surprising. I've never seen the thread regarding it, but I feel like it's one of those things that has been made to sound more grandiose than it actually is for tiering by looking too much into it.

where are all these new people coming from?

Just got curious about why that Sonic dude said in the OPM discussions that he thinks he made a big mess here

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

For something as seemingly big as this not to be widely talked about is quite surprising. I've never seen the thread regarding it, but I feel like it's one of those things that has been made to sound more grandiose than it actually is for tiering by looking too much into it.

Bingo!

 

[Ryzen7900X]

OPM? makes sense now

 

[Omegabronic]

Do you want popcorn for the drama?

prefer cookies

Or maybe we'll just leave this because it's kind of pointless

i would also like that

didn't know Omega spoke Spanish

portuguese and spanish are pretty close to one another

 

[Alexander]

prefer cookies

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[Ryzen7900X]

yhadow the yaphog

 

[Alexander]

yhadow the yaphog

...it is actually [redacted] the hedgehog

 

[DivineAura44]

where are all these new people coming from?

Mf you're new

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Mf you're new

not new to this thread

 

[TheTenno07]

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i would also like that


portuguese and spanish are pretty close to one another

Ambos son lenguas romances, osea derivadas del latin básicamente lenguas hermanas, la similitudes son bastantes hasta que escuchas los acentos.
(Both are Romance languages, that is, derived from Latin, basically sister languages, the similarities are quite a lot until you listen to the accents.)

É que só o oposto é verdade, a pessoa sabe falar português então ela sabe falar espanhol, mas se a pessoa fala espanhol, ela não vai saber português.


(It's just that the opposite is true, the person knows how to speak Portuguese so they know how to speak Spanish, but if the person speaks Spanish, they won't know Portuguese)

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