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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

Alexander said:
Where is the different dimension of time in a world where time passes faster? Many universes have this, it is not another dimension of time, it is just that time moves faster.
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The echo that other universes don't mention in their universes that are dimensions of different times maybe. And in DB they are directly called dimensions of time.

You are using examples from other verses to prove an invalid point, that doesn't help you or prove you right bro
 
RenderGK said:
The echo that other universes don't mention in their universes that are dimensions of different times maybe. And in DB they are directly called dimensions of time.

You are using examples from other verses to prove an invalid point, that doesn't help you or prove you right bro
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Ok, explain to me how other verses using this concept better makes it invalid, it just proves that Dragon Ball applies it very badly.
 
Alexander said:
That it wasn't just throwing out a word, there's just because.
because if they took the time to explain time travel, they can take the time to explain why there is another time dimension, instead of making it seem like it's just a space and time dimension with another flow of time.
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My guy, a world with a different time flow doesn’t contradict it being a world with a different dimension of time. Both of them can simultaneously true.
Alexander said:
Where is the different dimension of time in a world where time passes faster? Many universes have this, it is not another dimension of time, it is just that time moves faster.
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Uh, I don’t know man. Perhaps the exact statement that tells us it’s a world with a different dimension of time? Dunno though, I might be looking too deep into it.
Alexander said:
hypertime is a exclusive concept from DC, No verse should have it (and I say this as a fan of Sonic, I don't like that it has it, by the way, neither should Ben 10, nor GOW, nor any verse in my opinion) and that Dragon Ball It has the problem that it puts all the space and time in the 12 universes.
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You’re fine to think that way, but we have standards of what qualifies for a timeline with 2-time dimensions in the FAQ. There’s a whole blog dedicated to showing how DB fulfills each part. And the timeline themself having space-time continuums with different dimensions of time. If you decide to give those a look and understand it won’t come off as an argument from ignorance though.
 
TheGodOfICE777 said:
You’re fine to think that way, but we have standards of what qualifies for a timeline with 2-time dimensions in the FAQ. There’s a whole blog dedicated to showing how DB fulfills each part. And the timeline themself having space-time continuums with different dimensions of time. If you decide to give those a look and understand it won’t come off as an argument from ignorance though.
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Well, I'm honest, the only reason I think they apply it now is because they wanted to do it for Dragon Ball and many other verses (I repeat, I don't want that even for Sonic)
 
RenderGK said:
yes, you are simply saying that one verse must work like the other for it to be good.
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no, just applied the concept well, ok?

If we ask fiction to apply certain things well to history (like war, depression, love, etc.), why can't we ask them to apply something like this well?
RenderGK said:
and that is a biased opinion
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Everyone has biased opinions in this world for better or worse.
RenderGK said:
This is a double standard since some verse works as the creator wants, not as another verse that you like.
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and those creators do it well
RenderGK said:
and in DB it is fine in its verse, you using another verse simply says that you cannot say why it is wrong in DB without having to resort to another verse is bruh
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I repeat the above, if one story applies the romance well, and the other does it badly, then what is it?
 
Alexander said:
no, just applied the concept well, ok?

If we ask fiction to apply certain things well to history (like war, depression, love, etc.), why can't we ask them to apply something like this well?


Everyone has biased opinions in this world for better or worse.

and those creators do it well

I repeat the above, if one story applies the romance well, and the other does it badly, then what is it?
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How you apply these concepts well depends on your world, not another verse, this can vary as the world is formed in fiction.

not using another verse, again biased opinion

and you are deviating from the topic, putting in things that are not relevant.
 
RenderGK said:
How you apply these concepts well depends on your world, not another verse, this can vary as the world is formed in fiction.
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It's actually something very basic about stories, if there is romance, you have to develop it, if you don't, you applied romance wrong.
RenderGK said:
not using another verse, again biased opinion
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I already said it, we are all biased
RenderGK said:
and you are deviating from the topic, putting in things that are not relevant.
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mmm
 
Alexander said:
It's actually something very basic about stories, if there is romance, you have to develop it, if you don't, you applied romance wrong.

I already said it, we are all biased

mmm
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And depending on how it is done, it is fine, and how the romance turns out, not all are the same in fiction.

Why one does it in a different way or manner is not bad.

And again, an irrelevant topic that does not help you at all.
 
RinneItachi said:
What does this even mean.

There is no evidence of a hyper-timeline concept in the Dragon Ball cosmology and the entire notion of it is derived from fringe wacky speculation based on what we DO know about the cosmology (mixed with tiering system and theoretical physics principles that are accepted on the wiki) and basically attempting to add context to it to justify the end result, in summary. It's something I'd expect a 1.7k subscriber Dragon Ball powerscaler with an AI voice to claim for shock value to get clicks, so I was pretty surprised to see it being applied to Vs. Battles Wiki but I guess we take anything these days if the argument sounds fancy or something. The fing "Power>Hax" argument unironically has MORE credibility and substance to it than the hyper-timeline argument which has not a single, tiny piece of evidence to support it. It is a literal theory if not hypothetical that is being accepted as a fact and a huge miscontextualization of actual known knowledge about the DB verse.

But I digress cause talking about it isn't worth my time tbh but enjoy it if you do.
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There’s a whole explanation page dedicated to telling you what the as ryzen said it’s one of the most blatant examples on the wiki. Matter a fact I’d argue it’s the only blatant example on the wiki. This is the same thinking people use to make anything above tier 3 seem too inconsistent for the wiki.
Alexander said:
Or more like the greatest example of bias and fans.
Come on, there was no statements of hypertimelines in Dragón Ball ever
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this makes no sense that’s the equivalent of saying “Toriyama never wrote the words there’s a low multiverse in universe 7” so they shouldn’t qualify. Not everything must be spoon fed to you.
 
ChoursDropoff said:
this makes no sense that’s the equivalent of saying “Toriyama never wrote the words there’s a low multiverse in universe 7” so they shouldn’t qualify. Not everything must be spoon fed to you.
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bad example, those words a re things obviosly no one will know, but if you are going to apply something but you don't neccesarely have the words for this, then do it but do it well
 
Worthless said:
This is kinda cringe to say when If it weren’t for the new system within this site, that wouldn’t have happened. Also, how many times has this hypertimeline appeared?
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We have always had a lot of evidence about this, but with changes to the system it has become easier to achieve.
 
Alexander said:
yo puedo hablar español y no por eso significa que se portugués (i can speak spanish but that does not mean i can understand portuguese)
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É que só o oposto é verdade, a pessoa sabe falar português então ela sabe falar espanhol, mas se a pessoa fala espanhol, ela não vai saber português.


(It's just that the opposite is true, the person knows how to speak Portuguese so they know how to speak Spanish, but if the person speaks Spanish, they won't know Portuguese)
 
Worthless said:
This is kinda cringe to say when If it weren’t for the new system within this site, that wouldn’t have happened.
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pretty sure he was joking (because if he was serious that means he'd prevent any further upgrades because he genuinely believes its born to be low 1-C, but as we know that wouldn't happen). you took it too seriously.
Worthless said:
Also, how many times has this hypertimeline appeared?
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irrelevant, also a really strange thing to say
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
We have always had a lot of evidence about this, but with changes to the system it has become easier to achieve.
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For something as seemingly big as this not to be widely talked about is quite surprising. I've never seen the thread regarding it, but I feel like it's one of those things that has been made to sound more grandiose than it actually is for tiering by looking too much into it.
Ryzen7900X said:
where are all these new people coming from?
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Just got curious about why that Sonic dude said in the OPM discussions that he thinks he made a big mess here
 
Worthless said:
For something as seemingly big as this not to be widely talked about is quite surprising. I've never seen the thread regarding it, but I feel like it's one of those things that has been made to sound more grandiose than it actually is for tiering by looking too much into it.
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Bingo!
 
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