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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

Just to make my points clear as to why I disagree with hypertime (i will later explain for other verses at least)
1.the multiple time chambers are just space-time dimensions separate from the universes (because they have a different flow of time) and they are not other dimensions of time, they just have a different flow, having a different flow of time does not make you a higher dimension of time, it is just having another flow of time
2. It is very contradictory that the 12 universes all have shared space and time to the point where time travel affects all universes, and no, this does not prove that it is a hypertime like DC, this only proves that Dragon Ball He simply misapplied this concept and made all his universes exist in the same space and time ''but it is constantly emphasized that they are different'' and? It does not mean that they all share the same space-time and are all affected by the same time travel.
if the series at least explained that only universe 7 was affected by this same thing so maybe it means something, but beyond that, all universes were affected, all universes share space and time, and there is no hypertime at all, just a big bad applied concept.
3. and it is not a question of ''but history says this'' BUT LET HISTORY APPLY THOSE CONCEPTS WELL, the story of Dragon Ball didn't ever give the effort to make this 12 universes have different space-times by saying ''well you see, the different universes have a different flow of time''or actually don't mentioning that they all exists on the same space-time, but on the contrary, it constantly commits this error of not implimenting that idea.
it did that with the afterlife (by constantly saying the time in GENERAL and not the time on earth)it also did the same thing here, it is just a Dragon Ball problem and not a thing of hypertime or whatever.
and is not like the creators could not do it, after all, the time chamber exists, so yes, they could indeed to it, the fact that they didn't do it just shows that they really didn't applied this.
4.
and I repeat, it's not that Dragon Ball can't have it, but that it does it wrong, many other verses do it better (about making the universes not share the same space and time)
Sonic Prime did it, Fire Force did it, The Longing did it, Adventure Time did it, BEN 10 did it, all these universes applied their things well that the space and time of the universes or dimensions are separated, but Dragon ball didn't do any of this.
 
Alexander said:
Just to make my points clear as to why I disagree with hypertime (i will later explain for other verses at least)
1.the multiple time chambers are just space-time dimensions separate from the universes (because they have a different flow of time) and they are not other dimensions of time, they just have a different flow, having a different flow of time does not make you a higher dimension of time, it is just having another flow of time
2. It is very contradictory that the 12 universes all have shared space and time to the point where time travel affects all universes, and no, this does not prove that it is a hypertime like DC, this only proves that Dragon Ball He simply misapplied this concept and made all his universes exist in the same space and time ''but it is constantly emphasized that they are different'' and? It does not mean that they all share the same space-time and are all affected by the same time travel.
if the series at least explained that only universe 7 was affected by this same thing so maybe it means something, but beyond that, all universes were affected, all universes share space and time, and there is no hypertime at all, just a big bad applied concept.
3. and it is not a question of ''but history says this'' BUT LET HISTORY APPLY THOSE CONCEPTS WELL, the story of Dragon Ball didn't ever give the effort to make this 12 universes have different space-times by saying ''well you see, the different universes have a different flow of time''or actually don't mentioning that they all exists on the same space-time, but on the contrary, it constantly commits this error of not implimenting that idea.
it did that with the afterlife (by constantly saying the time in GENERAL and not the time on earth)it also did the same thing here, it is just a Dragon Ball problem and not a thing of hypertime or whatever.
and is not like the creators could not do it, after all, the time chamber exists, so yes, they could indeed to it, the fact that they didn't do it just shows that they really didn't applied this.
4.
and I repeat, it's not that Dragon Ball can't have it, but that it does it wrong, many other verses do it better (about making the universes not share the same space and time)
Sonic Prime did it, Fire Force did it, The Longing did it, Adventure Time did it, BEN 10 did it, all these universes applied their things well that the space and time of the universes or dimensions are separated, but Dragon ball didn't do any of this.
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Dawg, I don’t really care, but man your first point is already wrong. RoSaT is stated to be a world from a different dimension of time from the Kaioshin Realm. So, we do have statements of different time dimensions instead of just time flow. Different time flows can occur under one space-time continuum.
 
Alexander said:
Just to make my points clear as to why I disagree with hypertime (i will later explain for other verses at least)
1.the multiple time chambers are just space-time dimensions separate from the universes (because they have a different flow of time) and they are not other dimensions of time, they just have a different flow, having a different flow of time does not make you a higher dimension of time, it is just having another flow of time
2. It is very contradictory that the 12 universes all have shared space and time to the point where time travel affects all universes, and no, this does not prove that it is a hypertime like DC, this only proves that Dragon Ball He simply misapplied this concept and made all his universes exist in the same space and time ''but it is constantly emphasized that they are different'' and? It does not mean that they all share the same space-time and are all affected by the same time travel.
if the series at least explained that only universe 7 was affected by this same thing so maybe it means something, but beyond that, all universes were affected, all universes share space and time, and there is no hypertime at all, just a big bad applied concept.
3. and it is not a question of ''but history says this'' BUT LET HISTORY APPLY THOSE CONCEPTS WELL, the story of Dragon Ball didn't ever give the effort to make this 12 universes have different space-times by saying ''well you see, the different universes have a different flow of time''or actually don't mentioning that they all exists on the same space-time, but on the contrary, it constantly commits this error of not implimenting that idea.
it did that with the afterlife (by constantly saying the time in GENERAL and not the time on earth)it also did the same thing here, it is just a Dragon Ball problem and not a thing of hypertime or whatever.
and is not like the creators could not do it, after all, the time chamber exists, so yes, they could indeed to it, the fact that they didn't do it just shows that they really didn't applied this.
4.
and I repeat, it's not that Dragon Ball can't have it, but that it does it wrong, many other verses do it better (about making the universes not share the same space and time)
Sonic Prime did it, Fire Force did it, The Longing did it, Adventure Time did it, BEN 10 did it, all these universes applied their things well that the space and time of the universes or dimensions are separated, but Dragon ball didn't do any of this.
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This last one is so wrong, you talk about a series without knowing it thoroughly.

and you try to give meaning to the words with your own beliefs to support your point, but I will not change your opinion, which is just another complaint or tantrum.

good bye
 
TheGodOfICE777 said:
Dawg, I don’t really care, but man your first point is already wrong. RoSaT is stated to be a world from a different dimension of time from the Kaioshin Realm. So, we do have statements of different time dimensions instead of just time flow. Different time flows can occur under one space-time continuum.
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except that as we know that doesn't work like that, it's just a place with a different flow of time, his saying that it is another dimension of time is not very specific (and it was only once by the way) plus it would be like saying that Goku saying That afterlife has no time makes sense, when they don't delve much into this either and it rather seems that souls don't age and are already... well, dead.
 
RenderGK said:
This last one is so wrong, you talk about a series without knowing it thoroughly.

and you try to give meaning to the words with your own beliefs to support your point, but I will not change your opinion, which is just another complaint or tantrum.

good bye
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But what are you talking about? If literally all the series I mentioned apply the idea of "another space and time that is not linked to the same space and time?" and they apply that idea.
 
Alexander said:
except that as we know that doesn't work like that, it's just a place with a different flow of time, his saying that it is another dimension of time is not very specific (and it was only once by the way) plus it would be like saying that Goku saying That afterlife has no time makes sense, when they don't delve much into this either and it rather seems that souls don't age and are already... well, dead.
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No, dude it’s VERBATIM stated to be a world with a different dimension of time. It having a different time flow DOES not contradict that. You’re doing hella mental gymnastics with a verbatim ass statement. I can literally pull up the scan.
 
TheGodOfICE777 said:
No, dude it’s VERBATIM stated to be a world with a different dimension of time. It having a different time flow DOES not contradict that. You’re doing hella mental gymnastics with a verbatim ass statement. I can literally pull up the scan.
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They only say it once, they don't go deeper, they don't mention it again, it sounds more like it's a place with another flow of time and that's it, you can have places with another flow of time and they don't necessarily have to be another temporal dimension.
 
and not mentioning it again doesn't change the meaning of it being a different time dimension.

oh and in super merus' roset it is mentioned that it is also a different time dimension.

you are changing the meaning of a word to something that was never said.

you are doing a headcon
Alexander said:
They only say it once, they don't go deeper, they don't mention it again, it sounds more like it's a place with another flow of time and that's it, you can have places with another flow of time and they don't necessarily have to be another temporal dimension.
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Alexander said:
They only say it once, they don't go deeper, they don't mention it again, it sounds more like it's a place with another flow of time and that's it, you can have places with another flow of time and they don't necessarily have to be another temporal dimension.
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Actually, they say it twice in the DBZ Manga. Twice in the DBZ Anime. Then, they state it’s a world with a different temporal dimension sealed from the outside world in the DBS Manga. So this is honestly just sounds like cope. If you’re choosing to ignore statements because you think they don’t go deeper. When the meaning of “world with a different dimension of time” is obvious.
 
Alexander said:
They only say it once, they don't go deeper, they don't mention it again, it sounds more like it's a place with another flow of time and that's it, you can have places with another flow of time and they don't necessarily have to be another temporal dimension.
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Why do they need to go go deeper than "different dimension of time" exactly? And why do they need to say it twice?

I am pretty sure common sense takes over at that point


You're simply disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing
 
Alexander said:
They only say it once, they don't go deeper, they don't mention it again, it sounds more like it's a place with another flow of time and that's it, you can have places with another flow of time and they don't necessarily have to be another temporal dimension.
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A world with a different dimension of time doesn't have a different dimension of time
 
Jaakor48 said:
Why do they need to go go deeper than "different dimension of time" exactly? And why do they need to say it twice?

I am pretty sure common sense takes over at that point


You're simply disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing
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That it wasn't just throwing out a word, there's just because.
because if they took the time to explain time travel, they can take the time to explain why there is another time dimension, instead of making it seem like it's just a space and time dimension with another flow of time.
 
LordDestroit10K said:
What is my guy trying to argue 😭
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hypertime is a exclusive concept from DC, No verse should have it (and I say this as a fan of Sonic, I don't like that it has it, by the way, neither should Ben 10, nor GOW, nor any verse in my opinion) and that Dragon Ball It has the problem that it puts all the space and time in the 12 universes.
 
Alexander said:
Where is the different dimension of time in a world where time passes faster? Many universes have this, it is not another dimension of time, it is just that time moves faster.
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The echo that other universes don't mention in their universes that are dimensions of different times maybe. And in DB they are directly called dimensions of time.

You are using examples from other verses to prove an invalid point, that doesn't help you or prove you right bro
 
RenderGK said:
The echo that other universes don't mention in their universes that are dimensions of different times maybe. And in DB they are directly called dimensions of time.

You are using examples from other verses to prove an invalid point, that doesn't help you or prove you right bro
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Ok, explain to me how other verses using this concept better makes it invalid, it just proves that Dragon Ball applies it very badly.
 
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