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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

Hasty12345 said:
  • edge
  • center
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TheGodOfICE777 said:
Show me a statement of it being contradicted. I’m not misrepresenting math, I just gave you an example how the amount of numbers between 2 points can be infinite. Even on a line graph, if you have point (1,0) and point (2,0) you could put an infinite amount of points between the 2. Like (1.11,0) and (1.111,0). Facts don’t care about your feelings. If you can’t find a real contradiction and argue out of incredibility you won’t be taken serious.
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Hasty12345 said:
  • shown to be smaller than 3D space and touch other universes
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1. U6 & U7 never touch, and the Universes are not shown to be smaller than a 3D space. Although, if you’re referring to it being shown, I would just mention how you can’t draw an infinite sized object anyways, or that the perspective was from a higher dimensional POV i.e neutral space. There’s many verses that show the universe and we still acknowledge are infinite. (Not gonna mention any since I don’t wanna use whataboutism). But that doesn’t contradict an infinite universe.
Hasty12345 said:
26 planets with intelligent life
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Ah yes, 26 planets with life contradict infinite space within a universe. Like what? 💀
Hasty12345 said:
all statements of infinite come from secondary canon
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True, still canon and not contradicted. SSJ’s 50x multiplier comes strictly from secondary canon and there’s more statements of infinite universe than there is 50x multiplier statements from my knowledge as well. Secondary source doesn’t mean it’s not canon.
Hasty12345 said:
never stated infinite in the source material
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Stated to be infinite within the daizenshuu and chozenshuu, which the author himself had to approve to get accepted back in to the guidebook for the latter (chozenshuu).



Allat, and still no contradiction in sight.
 
Now why would 26 planets somehow contradict...infinite size? Also using visuals? Who's this buffoon that tries to argue "Ah its finite on screen thus not infinite"...like duh? The screen isn't infinite?
 
TheGreatBanana said:
Now why would 26 planets somehow contradict...infinite size? Also using visuals? Who's this buffoon that tries to argue "Ah its finite on screen thus not infinite"...like duh? The screen isn't infinite?
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Little does he know that there are mentioned to be countless planets within the Universe several times, i believe he is thinking there are only 28 planets, but in reality there are 28 planets with intelligent life, lol

Also with their underworld having an ending it's really funny to call it infinite
 
TheGodOfICE777 said:
The same way the distance between 1.5 and 2 is still infinite.

Just learn up a bit on mathematics and maybe we’ll see if there’s any real contradictions in the future.

Looks like you need to improve your education (this is a joke don’t take this seriously just wanted to mimic Ryzen)
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Wasn't gonna comment but since you're trying to educate people I'm gonna correct you.

The distance between 1.5 and 2 is NOT infinite, even if there are infinite numbers in between. In fact, in Mathematics the distance between 2 points is defined as an application that values in R+, i.e., positive REAL numbers. Therefore, no distance is possible in which the distance between 1.5 and 2 is infinity.

Not trying to argue for nor against the point, just correct this
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
Wasn't gonna comment but since you're trying to educate people I'm gonna correct you.

The distance between 1.5 and 2 is NOT infinite, even if there are infinite numbers in between. In fact, in Mathematics the distance between 2 points is defined as an application that values in R+, i.e., positive REAL numbers. Therefore, no distance is possible in which the distance between 1.5 and 2 is infinity.

Not trying to argue for nor against the point, just correct this
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By distance I meant number, since I was flip flopping between explaining math and talking about DB. But yeah the amount of numbers between 1.5 and 2 is infinite.
 
Neutral on the topic, but hand on heart, if you weren't a Dragon Ball powerscaling fan,

Do you genuinely think they considered the mathematical nuisances regarding infinity in order to keep in line with guide statements they may or may not even know exist or care about from decades earlier, while stating the universe has a center and an edge? All while never once stating the universe to be infinite in the series?
 
Quantu said:
Neutral on the topic, but hand on heart, if you weren't a Dragon Ball powerscaling fan,

Do you genuinely think they considered the mathematical nuisances regarding infinity in order to keep in line with guide statements they may or may not even know exist or care about from decades earlier, while stating the universe has a center and an edge? All while never once stating the universe to be infinite in the series?
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no, but in that case they probably dont even imagine anything more than a 3-A multiverse, at least knowing Toriyama. how's that a valid argument?
 
Quantu said:
Neutral on the topic, but hand on heart, if you weren't a Dragon Ball powerscaling fan,

Do you genuinely think they considered the mathematical nuisances regarding infinity in order to keep in line with guide statements they may or may not even know exist or care about from decades earlier, while stating the universe has a center and an edge? All while never once stating the universe to be infinite in the series?
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I don't know why repeating things more than once, when we have official guides stating, it's like saying Goku isn't Universal in a future saga where he takes damage from a fire hydrant.
 
Ryzen7900X said:
no, but in that case they probably dont even imagine anything more than a 3-A multiverse, at least knowing Toriyama. how's that a valid argument?
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Not the same though, they establish the concept of a multiverse in the series. The tiering doesn't matter since that's up to the site.

The universe size is not made clear in DBS in isolation and everything points to finite size without these old guidebook statements to "reverse engineer" the contradictions.

I'm not arguing. I'm enquiring. I think Daima will clear stuff up anyway.
 
Hasty12345 said:
I personally think there's a difference between calling out a general mentality based on numerous observations and personally insulting someone.
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there is, but that isnt much better either, but what you did is far worse. i only grabbed a snippet of your entire message for obvious reasons. your entire message is full of unwarranted hostility and insulting tone towards an entire fandom, implying that they dont even put a modicum of thought or effort in their arguments, when they've all done more for DB here than you ever will sitting on that high horse of yours.

and please, you personally attacked me in the Saint Seiya thread AFTER i warned you not to do so. don't give me that crap hasty
 
Quantu said:
I'm not arguing. I'm enquiring. I think Daima will clear stuff up anyway.
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Toriyama has put more ffort into Daima than other projects according to the website, so if he thinks the universe is infinite and that's something he wishes to explore in Daima there's a good chance we'll get the statement and it can retcons the failings of Super.
 
Quantu said:
Not the same though, they establish the concept of a multiverse in the series. The tiering doesn't matter since that's up to the site.

The universe size is not made clear in DBS in isolation and everything points to finite size without these old guidebook statements to "reverse engineer" the contradictions.

I'm not arguing. I'm enquiring. I think Daima will clear stuff up anyway.
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i mean i don't think they even think goku can just punch away a whole universe. that impartiality argument is just hokum is all i'm saying
 
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