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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Big if. If it happens though, then sure? I highly doubt that’d happen since its something mentioned in the daizenshuu and chozenshuu multiple times. The chozenshuu content toriyama looked over himself to get reapproved in. It’s like if I said what if Daima states that SSJ is a 21x multiplier.
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The universe isn't stated to have a center and an edge in canon or anything.
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That’s not a contradiction. You have to ignore the basic concept of infinity to say it is.
You can have an infinite amount of numbers between 1 and 2 and the amount is infinite. The distance from the edge and center would just be an infinite distance. The same way the numbers between 1.5 and 2 is still infinite.
Just learn up a bit on mathematics and maybe we’ll see if there’s any real contradictions in the future.
Looks like you need to improve your education
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Opponents' best argument: hyperbole
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nah that's a countable infinity
he's learning algebraic geometry. he's on the right track actually
Hasty12345
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Show me an infinite universe statement in canon. The guides are contradicted. You can misrepresent the math all day long, it will never change the fact Super does not have an infinite universe.
But it's not surprising when Super is written by a bunch of people who don't know anything about DB.
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Show me a statement of it being contradicted. I’m not misrepresenting math, I just gave you an example how the amount of numbers between 2 points can be infinite. Even on a line graph, if you have point (1,0) and point (2,0) you could put an infinite amount of points between the 2. Like (1.11,0) and (1.111,0). Facts don’t care about your feelings. If you can’t find a real contradiction and argue out of incredibility you won’t be taken serious.
Hasty12345
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Rent free.You can't talk like that either, since the underworld has an ending and said to be infinite, an infinity that has an end
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the guides are canon
how?
he misrepresented nothing
when did this become a fact?
are you suggesting that Toriyama himself and Toyotarou who basically made a career out of being a famous fan manga artist enough to be picked by Toriyama know nothing of DB? seriously?
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Hyperbole, poetry, contradictory, what else will excuses be?
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- edge
- center
- shown to be smaller than 3D space and touch other universes
- 26 planets with intelligent life
- all statements of infinite come from secondary canon
- never stated infinite in the source material
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No, just saying that something has an end is not infinite, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
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Rent free.
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really isn't. the argument godofice is making is literally the one that Unshakable made which i recall you supporting. c'mon Hasty...
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I remember exactly what he did
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isn't exactly a contradiction
rejected visual plus also doesnt contradict anything. also what 3D space was it smaller than? the same one from where Zeno's finger appears to be larger than a planet (and possibly galaxies too)?
Manga only statement. DBS anime and manga cosmologies have been separated as well
which is still canon
makes no difference
Hasty12345
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Things change.
Also for the record, I'd appreciate we drop this "improve your education" thing. it's an old joke and I no longer find it funny.
Hasty12345
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If anyone cares about improving the quality of the verse pages:
vsbattles.com
Minor Dragon Ball CRT
This is a minor thing, but it looks unprofessional and an easy fix IMO. The current blog linked to Goku's attack potency section includes a section of debunked scaling that's labelled as "not accepted" and struck out, in addition, it's a "user_blog" not a verse page...
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yeah, things certainly change when you move in between DB and SS. your standards are about as consistent as DBS's powerscaling there
.....its literally on YOUR profile...
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1. U6 & U7 never touch, and the Universes are not shown to be smaller than a 3D space. Although, if you’re referring to it being shown, I would just mention how you can’t draw an infinite sized object anyways, or that the perspective was from a higher dimensional POV i.e neutral space. There’s many verses that show the universe and we still acknowledge are infinite. (Not gonna mention any since I don’t wanna use whataboutism). But that doesn’t contradict an infinite universe.
Ah yes, 26 planets with life contradict infinite space within a universe. Like what?
True, still canon and not contradicted. SSJ’s 50x multiplier comes strictly from secondary canon and there’s more statements of infinite universe than there is 50x multiplier statements from my knowledge as well. Secondary source doesn’t mean it’s not canon.
Stated to be infinite within the daizenshuu and chozenshuu, which the author himself had to approve to get accepted back in to the guidebook for the latter (chozenshuu).
Allat, and still no contradiction in sight.
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I removed it.
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Now why would 26 planets somehow contradict...infinite size? Also using visuals? Who's this buffoon that tries to argue "Ah its finite on screen thus not infinite"...like duh? The screen isn't infinite?
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Buffoon?
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Little does he know that there are mentioned to be countless planets within the Universe several times, i believe he is thinking there are only 28 planets, but in reality there are 28 planets with intelligent life, lol
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Yes, buffoon.
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Why does having a different opinion warrant being insulted?
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i remember you making fun of Luffy for arguing that the author didnt draw infinite fists, yet you're now making pretty much the same argument.
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Wasn't gonna comment but since you're trying to educate people I'm gonna correct you.
The distance between 1.5 and 2 is NOT infinite, even if there are infinite numbers in between. In fact, in Mathematics the distance between 2 points is defined as an application that values in R+, i.e., positive REAL numbers. Therefore, no distance is possible in which the distance between 1.5 and 2 is infinity.
Not trying to argue for nor against the point, just correct this
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You don't have a very good attitude towards us either, shouldn't you sometimes stop insulting others?
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Don't even start lmao
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Never said I was perfect, but I am always trying to improve myself as a person.
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No one is ever perfect, but everyone deserves respect.
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By distance I meant number, since I was flip flopping between explaining math and talking about DB. But yeah the amount of numbers between 1.5 and 2 is infinite.
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Neutral on the topic, but hand on heart, if you weren't a Dragon Ball powerscaling fan,
Do you genuinely think they considered the mathematical nuisances regarding infinity in order to keep in line with guide statements they may or may not even know exist or care about from decades earlier, while stating the universe has a center and an edge? All while never once stating the universe to be infinite in the series?
Do you genuinely think they considered the mathematical nuisances regarding infinity in order to keep in line with guide statements they may or may not even know exist or care about from decades earlier, while stating the universe has a center and an edge? All while never once stating the universe to be infinite in the series?
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i don't think it does but frankly you have no right to complain when insulting the entire fandom is one of your hallmarks here:
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you were asking for that one
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no, but in that case they probably dont even imagine anything more than a 3-A multiverse, at least knowing Toriyama. how's that a valid argument?
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I don't know why repeating things more than once, when we have official guides stating, it's like saying Goku isn't Universal in a future saga where he takes damage from a fire hydrant.
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