You have no idea the utter bullshit that goes on in Saint Seiya threads, do not pretend to know what it feels like to be arguing with walls, Luffy argues for DB...
What you don't get, is that DB CRTS have the advantage of PEOPLE ACTUALLY INTERACTING WITH THEM. You're sitting here complaining and wallowing in self-pity, when in reality, if 3 of you decided to work together for 5 ******* minutes and come up with a well thought counterargument, you'd probably change someone's mind.
But as always with this fandom, you rather run to the general thread and bitch for 3 days, let a downgrade pass and never work together to defend the verse adequately.