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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

I have a question here: Why is it assumed that Goku absorbed the power of SSG as a whole and not just his first usage of the form? Like just out of genuine curiosity, why would it be the form as a whole and not his first time using it?
His first ussage of the form was still universal, besides that it was constantly growing in power, so it's possible the god power there using by the TOP has developed to a point it outspead SS3 even on top of what goku had at first, so it's not really that weird thinking about it
 
SSB is as rhe orginal name would imply, the result of using both transformations at once. When goku absorbed the power into base he wasn't using the transformion anymore, and it can be assumed he regained access to it well training with wiss
 
Veronica I think you don't understand how absorbing power works

1- lets just assume that base Goku's power lvl before going ssjg was 1, with ssj 50, ssj2 100, and with ssj3 400.
2- assuming that ssjg has a multiplier of 5000, Goku now fights Beerus with a power lvl of 5000
3- GOKU ABSORBS SSJG'S POWER INTO HIS BASE FORM
4-Goku now has a power lvl of 5000 in his base form, with super saiyan his power lvl would be 250000, with ssj2 a power lvl of 500000 and with ssj3 his power lvl
would also be 2000000
5-absorbing ssjg's power in base form doesn't equal not being able to go ssjg for example frieza back in rof could literally annihilate ssj1 gohan in his
1st form which should be far stronger than ssj1 goku back on namek that simply doesn't mean that frieza can't tap into his final form just because he exceeded the power of his final form back on namek
6- Goku now goes ssjg with his power lvl in base already equals to that when he first used ssjg
7-Boom goku with ssjg has a power lvl of 25000000.
(I might be yapping a lot but I've tried my best to explain it in a simple way)
 
Veronica I think you don't understand how absorbing power works

1- lets just assume that base Goku's power lvl before going ssjg was 1, with ssj 50, ssj2 100, and with ssj3 400.
2- assuming that ssjg has a multiplier of 5000, Goku now fights Beerus with a power lvl of 5000
3- GOKU ABSORBS SSJG'S POWER INTO HIS BASE FORM
4-Goku now has a power lvl of 5000 in his base form, with super saiyan his power lvl would be 250000, with ssj2 a power lvl of 500000 and with ssj3 his power lvl
would also be 2000000
5-absorbing ssjg's power in base form doesn't equal not being able to go ssjg for example frieza back in rof could literally annihilate ssj1 gohan in his
1st form which should be far stronger than ssj1 goku back on namek that simply doesn't mean that frieza can't tap into his final form just because he exceeded the power of his final form back on namek
6- Goku now goes ssjg with his power lvl in base already equals to that when he first used ssjg
7-Boom goku with ssjg has a power lvl of 25000000.
(I might be yapping a lot but I've tried my best to explain it in a simple way)
Goku absorbed SSG power in base, but can acces the same power by going SSG. You make a lot of sense dude 🤔
 
Ah, I get it now think of it as a state rather than power
Goku is in the state of ssjg, so logically he can't transform into ssjg again
GOKU BASE FORM'S POWER IS EQUALS TO HIS SSJG'S
Goku can go ssjg 😊
Goku's base was equal because he absorbed SSG power, but it got abandoned in U6 arc.
 
Goku goes SSG to have SSG level of power and in that state he goes SSJ and creates SSB, but in RoF his base is SSG and going SSJ creates SSB. So what nonsense are you spreading?
 
Jesus Christ, all I asked was that you could be more civil about it and you immediately go back to the same tired ol’ routine. You’re not gonna convince anyone by being annoying, if anything you’re just making people believe your viewpoint less.
He is a troll. He knows he's gonna get banned and is pushing it for the lols.

I've reached the point where I'm more concerned about how people keep getting reeled in.
 
Like U6 arc SSB3 Goku would be 600x BoG SSG Goku power. Instead we got yellow SSJ and normal base again. But I understand it for power scaling purpose to namke everyone stronger than SSG from BoG by just be stronger than base Goku.

Also DB is my favorite anime. I would be the first person to "wank" DB, but I have to stick to facts.
 
Can't debunk me so let's call me a troll ok
I know I just said I was gonna ignore but I just can’t help myself

It’s not about what you think, it’s how you project it. You constantly pester everyone with the same thing in the most obnoxious fashion. If you turned down the frequency and expressed your viewpoints more civilly then most of us wouldn’t care what you think, and those that did would be in the wrong in that case.

Now with that said, back to ignoring.
 
 
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shouldn’t hit be able to obliterate most anyone in dbh? Since he could attack them greater then finite times?
 
Just because I feel like arguing against a certain someone who is still in denial of the zenkai boosts and DBS upscaling layers. There so many overlooked histories of how DB characters have always progressed. Look at Buu saga, the cast got strong to the points where even their base forms are far stronger than how strong SSJ1 form was and Frieza stronger and considerably stronger than the pre RoSaT SSJ1's are bare minimum. And it all comes from Shin being able to vaporize Frieza in a single blast and described as "Dimensions Apart" compared to Piccolo. And yet he considered Pui Pui a threat which Vegeta stomped in his base form. So scaling chains are Buu saga base forms > Pui Pui > Shin > Super Namekian Piccolo (Post RoSaT) > Semi-Perfect Cell > Imperfect Cell (After absorbing many humans) > Super Namekian Piccolo (Pre-RoSaT) = Android 17 > Imperfect Cell > SSJ1's (Pre-RoSaT). And Goku and Vegeta still having access to SSJ1 forms does not debunk base forms being strong.

Same thing happens here were Goku surpassing how strong SSG was and often times surpassing how strong SSB was happens many times throughout SSB saga. Being able to still go SSJ's 1, 2, 3, G, and B doesn't debunk base form surpassing how strong SSG or SSB were previously.
 
shouldn’t hit be able to obliterate most anyone in dbh? Since he could attack them greater then finite times?
There are a good chunk of characters that Hit's Time Skip would be highly effective against, but a number of the notable characters have 7 layers of time hax that goes above and beyond what Hit can do so take it for what you will
 
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