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Yes that and instead of mugen, hateshinai was used to describe infiniteseriously? don't engage with people who say that, incredulity isnt a valid rebuttal
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Yes that and instead of mugen, hateshinai was used to describe infiniteseriously? don't engage with people who say that, incredulity isnt a valid rebuttal
I'm pretty sure mugen is used in many of those statements too thoughYes that and instead of mugen hateshinai was used to describe infinite
Not even a month and here we are. Oh well.well
Dragon Ball Super: Grand Priest Conceptual Manipulation Removal
Hi, it's me. I felt I should make this at some point, as I'd developed some grievances with this ability toward the end of the thread that it was accepted in, but I didn't want to be the guy spontaneously bringing up problems in a concluded thread. So, here's my response thread on the Grand...vsbattles.com
Really, whenever we achieve something good, there is a downgrade, i don't even want to get involved in that.Well, it was fun while it lasted
not enough education I guessI applied that CRT like last week...
Edit: I applied the Zeno one, but still, that one was applied like last week
What's so good about GP having concept manipulation, when the ability is not even that usefull.Really, whenever we achieve something good, there is a downgrade, i don't even want to get involved in that.
Flowery language, poetry, hyperbole, and logic that is similar to saying the numbers between 0 and 1 is finite.holy shit that's more evidence than I thought there'd be and it comes from Daizenshuu and Chozenshuu which are pretty much the most reliable sources for Dragon Ball after the manga and anime (and maybe the El Manga Legendario). Why isnt infinite universes accepted again? from what I know there are no real contradictions to it found in the source material
I applied that CRT like last week...
Edit: I applied the Zeno one, but still, that one was applied like last week
Everything for them is hyperbole and poetry, that's strange.Flowery language, poetry, hyperbole, and logic that is similar to saying the numbers between 0 and 1 is finite.
But yeah this is a statement made in the Daizenshuu and Chozenshuu a bunch of times. Mugen and Hateshinai are both used. People don’t realize how much evidence there is for until they see it for themselves.
dude....even the numbers between 0 and 0.1 are uncountably infinite.Flowery language, poetry, hyperbole, and logic that is similar to saying the numbers between 0 and 1 is finite.
yeah thats just stupid. Someone needs to do a proper thread sooner with all the information and multiple verifications from many different on- and offsite translators
But yeah this is a statement made in the Daizenshuu and Chozenshuu a bunch of times. Mugen and Hateshinai are both used. People don’t realize how much evidence there is for until they see it for themselves.
…Everything for them is hyperbole and poetry, that's strange.
We have the translation of @Executor_N0 which is very accurate, talking about infinite things makes me a little excited, there will definitely be something in Daima about this.dude....even the numbers between 0 and 0.1 are uncountably infinite.
yeah thats just stupid. Someone needs to do a proper thread sooner with all the information and multiple verifications from many different on- and offsite translators
also when tf has Dragon Ball ever resorted to poetry of all things?? DB is literally the last verse I expect to do that
I’m quite aware. Imo the statements of the Universe apply to the part of the Universe that’s stated to be illuminated by light and not the darkness where the unknown exists. Even if there is an actual edge infinity has an edge and center in mathematics. 0 < 0.5 < 1. This is an example of an uncountable infinite having an edge. Ngl idk why we argue things that aren’t true in mathematics.dude....even the numbers between 0 and 0.1 are uncountably infinite.
yeah thats just stupid. Someone needs to do a proper thread sooner with all the information and multiple verifications from many different on- and offsite translators
about this, this isnt necessarily true. This banks on the assumption that there is an "equal" number of infinite terms between 0 and 0.5 and 0.5 and 1, that is the only way for this infinity to have a "center" but this assumption cant actually be proven. regardless, these arguments dont matter. its stated to be infinite many, many timesI’m quite aware. Imo the statements of the Universe apply to the part of the Universe that’s stated to be illuminated by light and not the darkness where the unknown exists. Even if there is an actual edge infinity has an edge and center in mathematics. 0 < 0.5 < 1. This is an example of an uncountable infinite having an edge. Ngl idk why we argue things that aren’t true in mathematics.
The translations are correct, it does denote that the Universe is infinite. (Verified by executor) It’s just that it’ll probably somehow get rejected. You’ll notice a trend in people.
Not being Dragon Ball, i believe.Well whats needed for cm then when name dropping the word concept is not enough?
I have the same opinionTbh I believe if the evidence is 100% no ifs, any other interpretation of it. Then I think it could be added. Just it need a concrete, irrefutable, no toher interpretation of the feat type of evidence. You really cannot out mental gymnastics against something like that.
Which is impossible for a verse that doesn't involve itself with powerscaling too much, Especially the canon.
Yes he isI trust @CloverDragon03's judgement on this tbh. The guy is pretty objective and fair-minded all things considered
Not sure why people think this tbh, the ability to add space/time to something that lacks it is entirely combat applicable,and to be honest it was non-combat applicable anyway
it kinda is actually in the calc CRTWhy isnt DBs big size accepted?
it kinda is actually in the calc CRT
explainNo I mean infinite size.
Edit: Ah I got it; Logic? I love the double standards. Guys with a deeper understanding of math know what I mean
explain
It was still a betrayal. We will discuss his banishment at a later dateI trust @CloverDragon03's judgement on this tbh. The guy is pretty objective and fair-minded all things considered and to be honest it was non-combat applicable anyway
No there's a disclaimer against such feats in the immeasurable speed sectionIf it's not accepted that gp added the concept of time in the wov then wouldn't everyone in TOP be immeasurable speed? am I misunderstanding something?
thanksNo there's a disclaimer against such feats in the immeasurable speed section
Wouldn't we have to prove that time is a concept in db for it to be cm. Cos what deagon said is that, adding the concept of time is just adding time.GP adding the concept is the only likely answer
The other answer? Is that the manga, anime and guidebook were all wrong, and it's us in the thread that are right
We are literally told that the concept of time doesn't exist, the word 'concept' was name-droppedWouldn't we have to prove that time is a concept in db for it to be cm. Cos what deagon said is that, adding the concept of time is just adding time.
Exactly, we have two guides mentioning that time is a concept in DB, this is an irrefutable fact.We are literally told that the concept of time doesn't exist, the word 'concept' was name-dropped
I am not sure what other proof is needed that time is a concept there
Ik I accept that it should be cm2 but he said https://vsbattles.com/threads/drago...tual-manipulation-removal.167476/post-6512533the word 'concept' was name-dropped