Dragon Ball Possible Upgrades

[Ionliosite]

so are there any upgrades that come from this?

You should be thankful this thread hasn't been closed, unlike most DB upgrade threads.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Ikr, I only ever wanted a calm discussion or CRT about this but things escalate far too quickly.

 

[AwkguyDB]

I'm just saying it would be nice for us to gather some conclusions on whats accepted and whats not.

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

Honestly, I'm surprised this shit hasn't been shut down yet. Us Dragon Ball fans can't ever get our way. imagine being a One Piece fan though.

 

[ByAsura]

So let's see. Gohan>Cell was debunked, Moon level early tiers doesn't have enough evidence, 2-A Heroes was debunked, and 2-C Dragon Ball is debunked.

The only thing left now is High Universe level God tiers, maybe. I think they could be at that tier, because the World of the Kais, despite maybe not being temporally sepearate, is certainly in another spatial realm.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

How does that make it high 3-A?

 

[ByAsura]

From what I can gather, space itself is High 3-A.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

I don't even understand her AP justification.

 

[Ionliosite]

Who would scale to High 3-A?

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

Goku, Vegeta, Cabba, Kale, Caulifla, Hit, Frost, Piccolo, Gohan etc.

 

[ByAsura]

SSG Goku, who's literally the weakest God. However, that's if this is accepted.

 

[Ionliosite]

So basically every 3-A would become High 3-A? As long as we don't mention the World of Void at all on this matter, I wouldn't mind.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

I'm still lost asf.

 

[ByAsura]

Nothing about the World of Void unless you want to say the same Jiren who fought on par with Goku was the one that shook the World of Void.

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

I still don't get how the 3-As would be high 3-A.

 

[BlastX]

Would this affect Toeiverse too?

 

[ByAsura]

Goku was going to destroy both the Living World and World of the Kais. The World of the Kais is spatially separated from the Living World, so it's a High 3-A feat. At least, that's what I understand it as, more imput would be appreciated.

@Blast No.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Wouldn't this give infinite speed to anyone beyond kid Buu in Toeiverse, as Buu flew from the afterlife to the world of the kais in seconds. (Tho this tois only in the Toeiverse)

 

[Giygas3]

I... Didn't know someone could become High 3-A for destroying multiple spatially separated places, and I'm not really seeing how it makes sense with how the description is laid out.

I'm lost here as well on why this would be High 3-A. :/

 

[ByAsura]

The Toei world doesn't seem to be set up the same way. Also, he teleported.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Well in the manga he teleported but in the toeiverse he flew, as I remember in the clip he flew in the sky, and unlike the Manga he didn't appeare out of nowhere but came flying from far away.

 

[ByAsura]

You see him dissapear like teleportation. It's more likely that he teleported on the planet and flew nearby.

 

[Eminiteable]

Super Saiyan 2 Gohan (Cell arc) is easily two times more powerful than super perfect cell right?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Well these two scans makes it flight

Scan 1:

Scan 2:

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Super Saiyan 2 Gohan (Cell arc) is easily two times more powerful than super perfect cell right?

At least two times. Remember now, Gohan held back Cell's Solar Kamehameha while holding back and with half of his ki lost.

It's way more than 2x.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Goku was going to destroy both the Living World and World of the Kais. The World of the Kais is spatially separated from the Living World, so it's a High 3-A feat. At least, that's what I understand it as, more imput would be appreciated.
@Blast No.

Wait! Wouldn't that also give I'm manga Champa and Vados infinite speed?

 

[ByAsura]

Whis and Vados have the ability to go through dimensions.

 

[ByAsura]

@Eminiteable He did match a significantly stronger Cell with one arm. So probably.

@Adem I checked and it probably is flying, but the Kai world was portrayed as a planet in the afterlife in this episode. To substantiate this point, the first mentio of the revised Kai world in Daizenshuu was October, 1995 or after, while this episode came out in September.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Oh, ok

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

But still. High 3-A. Still lost.

 

[ByAsura]

I already explained it. Now let's wait for some input.

 

[ByAsura]

Actually, never mind. He wasn't going to destroy space, just all matter within. So I'm dropping this. All the points have been debunked.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Goku was going to reduce the entire universe into a vacuum of nothingness. Isn't that all of the space, or does the fact that it'll become a vacuum imply there's still space left? i honestly don't know.

 

[Ionliosite]

All of space is 3-A, isn't it?

 

[PowerToScale]

High 3-A is infinite amount of energy on a 3-D scale, so space would to be infinite. If not then just 3-A

 

[ByAsura]

@Null We don't have enough information. It could be either, as you mentioned.

 

[DanielX7]

'''''Interesting.'''''

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

Still, didn't Bulma calculate the size of the universe using the Dragon Radar?

 

[ByAsura]

That doesn't make the universe small, if that's what you're suggesting, it just makes Bulma incredibly smart.

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

I'm suggesting that it isn't infinite. Despite being stated to be questionably infinite by Vegeta.