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Dragon Ball Heroes Infinite Speed Revision
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@Kaltias
History and time are used interchangeably in DBH.
History and time are used interchangeably in DBH.
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They REALLY need some immesurable feats
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I'm just glad they're no longer stuck within MFTL+ as freakin 2Bs which is honestly garbage.
Still not as bad a Saint Seiya but still.
Still not as bad a Saint Seiya but still.
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Speaking of time, this just came to my mind:
Many characters (yes especially the God Tiers) in DBH have various time abilities, like time-slow, time-stop, pocket dimensions where time is altered etch.
Would this upgrade increase the potency of those abilities (and possibly resistance to them)?
Many characters (yes especially the God Tiers) in DBH have various time abilities, like time-slow, time-stop, pocket dimensions where time is altered etch.
Would this upgrade increase the potency of those abilities (and possibly resistance to them)?
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Waiting for 2-A DBH feat .
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>Scaling to Xenoverse
Lol no.
Heroes cannot be used to scale to Xenoverse. If anything, that would make it even more outlierish than it is here. It's already sketchy to scale to so many Hero characters who are not Infinite in their speed feats, arbitrarily so.
Lol no.
Heroes cannot be used to scale to Xenoverse. If anything, that would make it even more outlierish than it is here. It's already sketchy to scale to so many Hero characters who are not Infinite in their speed feats, arbitrarily so.
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Nope. The feats come from Heroes. Would stay only in the Heroes key.Super Saiyan God Julian said:
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Cool, has absolutely nothing to do with speed.Bluetrekking said:
There is a world of difference between giving them Infinite Speed, and giving Infinite Speed to say, Dabura.
False equivalency, and extreme example picked up to make the argument seem weaker. The point is that nobody they ever fight shows any indication whatsoever of having Infinite Speed.
They are not portrayed "infinitely faster" than someone like Xeno Goku because he scales.
Xeno Goku objectively doesn't have Infinite Speed.
This is the same thing with Dark Area Digimon. Non-tier 2 Dark Area Digimon aren't portrayed as infinitely faster than non-tier 2 Digimon.
It's really not. Digimon has far more proof, and a much more comprehensive cosmology that makes use of Higher-Dimensions frequently.
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I'm not sure why you're saying Digimon has more proof. It objectively doesn't, feats-wise, and its Infinite Speed is still a solid rating.
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It genuinely does. Existince beyond the concepts of space and time are objectively a thing there, as is higher-dimensional existences unbound by time.
This is just: "This dimension is outside the flow of time, so everyone in it should be Infinite Speed".
This is just: "This dimension is outside the flow of time, so everyone in it should be Infinite Speed".
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It's Dragon Ball, this is why.Sera Loveheart said:
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The subject here is explicitly limited to the Dark Area Digimon who are below 2-A, who have nothing that you said. They do, in a way, but their reasoning is similar to DBH
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@DMB
I'm not questioning Digimon's rating. It is easily the most solid and well-explained in the site, given the guy who takes care of upgrading it.
I'm not questioning Digimon's rating. It is easily the most solid and well-explained in the site, given the guy who takes care of upgrading it.
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The Immeasurable rating is, IIRC, based off of the Royal Knights, who are stated to be outside time itself and to cross the space & time, which is not too different from what DBH states. The difference is that it's repeated 5 times as opposed to 3
While I agree that some statements in the DBX side can be interpreted differently, this is fairly straightforward.
While I agree that some statements in the DBX side can be interpreted differently, this is fairly straightforward.
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>Dark Area
>Dragon Ball
>Same sentence
Cal wants to stay out of this conversation for now. Would take a Nintendo downgrade as a whole than get involved ovo.
>Dragon Ball
>Same sentence
Cal wants to stay out of this conversation for now. Would take a Nintendo downgrade as a whole than get involved ovo.
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Eh...?Sera Loveheart said:
Also I'm genuinely not getting the issue everyone is having.
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Outside the flow of time =/= infinite speed. You do realize this, yes? It's one of the most critically important factors of determining the upper echelons of speed. This is "void lacking spacetime" nonsense all over again.
Infinite speed is not about time people, that's immeasurable. It's about distance. Register that, please. Because with these two speeds we tend to always go in meaningless circles.
Infinite = anywhere instantly
mmeasurable = anywhere and anywhen instantly.
Infinite speed is not about time people, that's immeasurable. It's about distance. Register that, please. Because with these two speeds we tend to always go in meaningless circles.
Infinite = anywhere instantly
mmeasurable = anywhere and anywhen instantly.
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Uh, no. That's not how we handle it, Sera.
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Negatively relevant to what I said. If time literally stands still and the Demon Gods are born in this realm and move freely, they have Infinite speed.
I previously disagreed with this, but now I agree with it.
I previously disagreed with this, but now I agree with it.
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Wait, i don't know much about DBXV, but basically there is this place that exists outside of time and since ppl are there you are going to give everyone infinite speed? Srsly?
That would make everyone who entered the training room in Cell Saga massively faster than everyone else. Just cus the realm has those properties it doesn't mean everyone else gets those properties aswell. If you go over the clouds irl u would be "in a way" immune to rain cus it would never rain there, though that would only hold true for as long as you are there not when u go back down.
If im missing something on this realm thingy let me know.
That would make everyone who entered the training room in Cell Saga massively faster than everyone else. Just cus the realm has those properties it doesn't mean everyone else gets those properties aswell. If you go over the clouds irl u would be "in a way" immune to rain cus it would never rain there, though that would only hold true for as long as you are there not when u go back down.
If im missing something on this realm thingy let me know.
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And who told you that? Infinite speed is not being above time. Those guys are always ranked immeasurable.
Infinite = Able to move indefinitely while time literally stands still, or to travel anywhere instantly.
Immeasurable = Movement beyond linear time
>Realm beyond time
>Infinite speed.
Do tell how it's infinite speed when its "beyond/above" time? That contradicts the definition you have on your Speed page.
Infinite = Able to move indefinitely while time literally stands still, or to travel anywhere instantly.
Immeasurable = Movement beyond linear time
>Realm beyond time
>Infinite speed.
Do tell how it's infinite speed when its "beyond/above" time? That contradicts the definition you have on your Speed page.
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