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I’d like the opposition to outline what more proof is needed exactlyI’m pretty sure there needs to be more proof than that otherwise this would be accepted
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I’d like the opposition to outline what more proof is needed exactlyI’m pretty sure there needs to be more proof than that otherwise this would be accepted
I seeI’d like the opposition to outline what more proof is needed exactly
Then he is simply wrong. A structure that is larger than a 2-A structure (in terms of size) is low 1-CAccording to Planck
It seems you can have a Space larger, containing and dwarfing 2-A structures and that space not be Low 1-C so idk
On top of that the CoT has context of being a Super-Dimensional structure and being beyond Space and TimeThen he is simply wrong. A structure that is larger than a 2-A structure (in terms of size) is low 1-C
Ahhh gotta admit, I am talking about sizeIf that is not enough then I’d like to know what explicit prof the opposition is looking for
Glassman@Quantu tell that to pokemon since they have larger 2-A structures that make the creation trio hard to affect.
@Irineu That's literally not what I said. I literally told you "crack of time due to his boss being locked away in there for a long time"
Yeah and in the manga panels posted not too long ago you also have them mention the birth of a new space-time. Meaning a new timeline which further shoots your argument in the foot that the crystals are timelines.
Can you explain the bolded part? And does it have any relationship with the latter? (Beyond Space and Time)On top of that the CoT has context of being a Super-Dimensional structure and being beyond Space and Time
Its in the OPCan you explain the bolded part? And does it have any relationship with the latter? (Beyond Space and Time)
1. Crack of Time is actually called Super Space-time in japanese, its word is 超時空, which in Romaji is: Chō Jikū, translated as Space-time, most of the time in japanese space-time also refer to as dimension, and back. However, Dimension in Romaji is: Jigen
2. If you isolated the statement alone, then sure, it mean nothing, because you literally cut it from contexts, it was stated to be outside of time and the multiverse entirely, contain them and all powerful, godly being can't reach them with their power, implying some sort of superiority of it over the multiverse. The scan about it being super space-time, also implying its superiority, as normal space-time, timeline is refer to as usual space-time, CoT is called to be a Super one. Superior than 2-A is Low 1-C from what i known of standards
3. I see your point, and it is not really wrong, however, like above, in context, dimension of the verse = space-time, so hyperdimension, superdimension = hyper space-time, super space-time. Now plus my point 1 from above, i think i clear this confusion
4. Sure, i also understand this point, however, the verse repeatedly do this, which you can see from OP's post, as in his Universe Tree scan, the entire can hold multiples space-time, yet they just as small as a tree fruit, and the tree, as the name implied, yet is just a tree comparing to CoT. Lastly, from your comment, you said that CoT is larger than the multiverse, however, the multiverse is a 2-A one, which is countable infinite, the Crack of Time is larger, thus it is uncountable infinite, uncountable infinite 4D is 5D = Low 1-C
I didn't understand what you wanted to say. anyway, let's stop this topic of whether or not mechikabura affected CoT.@Irineu That's literally not what I said. I literally told you "crack of time due to his boss being locked away in there for a long time"
Yeah and in the manga panels posted not too long ago you also have them mention the birth of a new space-time. Meaning a new timeline which further shoots your argument in the foot that the crystals are timelines.
What I wanna know is the reasons why the opposition says none of this counts for Low 1-C because clearly the opposition either made it vague as to why this shouldn’t qualify or just haven’t explained at all why none of this is sufficient for it. I’d like a clear and concise reasonSo it is unadventurous to say that there is a relation and connectedness with “Beyond space-time” and “super dimensional space”?
Is this guess or you agree with the thread?I can agree
What I wanna know darling is the answer to my question I asked above silly :3What I wanna know is the reasons why the opposition says none of this counts for Low 1-C because clearly the opposition either made it vague as to why this shouldn’t qualify or just haven’t explained at all why none of this is sufficient for it. I’d like a clear and concise reason
Are you talking about this https://imgur.io/a/d5OfSJO ?@Quantu tell that to pokemon since they have larger 2-A structures that make the creation trio hard to affect.
@Irineu That's literally not what I said. I literally told you "crack of time due to his boss being locked away in there for a long time"
Yeah and in the manga panels posted not too long ago you also have them mention the birth of a new space-time. Meaning a new timeline which further shoots your argument in the foot that the crystals are timelines.
No to this bolded text. It is not a “requirement” or "must to have", it is an option to get low 1-C.@Ss3micah Being outside of the multiverse means nothing with the Crack of Time as it's a neutral statement for it's nature. Being stated to be beyond time and space in of itself is not enough, you'd need that to be further elaborated that the crack of time is beyond the spatial-temporal dimension of the entire multiverse and see it as infinitesimal, same with the statement of hyper dimension since last time I checked we don't use hyper dimension in of itself for a higher D in the same way we do "beyond space and time" on its own. That and the crystals being timelines doesn't line up in the series given how we see a universe in Fu's hand which looks nothing like the crystals, and said crystals just showing events and not literally containing an entire timeline.
I agreeIs this guess or you agree with the thread?
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Its in the OP
super-dimensional and hyperdimensional
V-Jump magazine stated that the crack of time is a super dimensional space. well, you can claim that statement is meaningless and not referring to any structure, but that's wrong, since it's a god mission 10 magazine, where the final battle takes place in the crack of time. Anyway, I don't 100% agree with this argument because I think the translation is wrong. Removing this contrast, the statement can be used as an extra argument.
Na missão do big bang, a capa do capítulo 14 cita a luta como: "batalha da hiperdimensão". a frase é um pouco ambígua, significando que se trata de uma batalha com proporções hiperdimensionais, ou que é uma batalha que se passa na hiperdimensão, o que faria sentido, já que os confrontos aconteceram no raiar do tempo.
In ultra god mission, the narrator states that the warriors fighting in the tournament have transcended space-time to arrive at the tournament's location. This is consistent with the fact that Sdbh's own twitter page states that it is a location beyond space-time. And in that same post, the text cites the tournament as superdimensional. And we know that this place is crack of time by the description, and by the background of the place, where we can see the starry sky of crack of time. https://imgur.com/a/u2z1sLX
And Viet explains what it means quite nicely right here
Oh lol sorry :3What I wanna know darling is the answer to my question I asked above silly :3
It isn’t in all honestly but glass made it clear that clearly even that is not enough so mehSo it is unadventurous to say that there is a relation and connectedness with “Beyond space-time” and “super dimensional space”?
Wherethat dimension that Brolly and Gogeta destroyed is described as superdimensional also
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It is not....? Wait a second, glass got a point if it is notOh lol sorry :3
It isn’t in all honestly but glass made it clear that clearly even that is not enough so meh
LololSo it is unadventurous to say that there is a relation and connectedness with “Beyond space-time” and “super dimensional space”?
Clarified in what regard exactly?Did the term of "super-dimensional space" ever got clarified?
History = timelineIf you can prove that the crystals are legit actual timelines beyond the whole "story images" then you might have ground for DBH reaching tier 1.
https://imgur.io/a/p8hyfzB#cucSPiR when it talks about history becoming a mess it shows a time crystal being destroyed meaning a crystal holds a history (timeline)@Ss3micah Being outside of the multiverse means nothing with the Crack of Time as it's a neutral statement for it's nature. Being stated to be beyond time and space in of itself is not enough, you'd need that to be further elaborated that the crack of time is beyond the spatial-temporal dimension of the entire multiverse and see it as infinitesimal, same with the statement of hyper dimension since last time I checked we don't use hyper dimension in of itself for a higher D in the same way we do "beyond space and time" on its own. That and the crystals being timelines doesn't line up in the series given how we see a universe in Fu's hand which looks nothing like the crystals, and said crystals just showing events and not literally containing an entire timeline.
@Irineu It's still treated as a Space Time continuum with that world, which again should've been a crystal in form if we're going to take those crystals as actual universes. If you can prove that the crystals are legit actual timelines beyond the whole "story images" then you might have ground for DBH reaching tier 1.
Mb.. I didn’t see this I legit just sent it right after you did on accidentHistory = timeline
Crystal is clearly symbolizing the timeline in this panel tbf
I myself don’t know the answer to that question (cause I don’t follow up on DBH content to that extent)If the term ever got clarified in the story (what the word means canonically)
The crystal itself is basically its own history so the crystal being destroyed literally destroys a historyQuestion but after the crystal got destroyed, what happened?
It gets nukedI am aware but what happened? What happened with history?