Fezzih_007
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Make sense then, Sorry for being rude then.
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Dragon Ball: Finite Universe
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We already had someone to translate it, @Executor_N0
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Y'all do realize that instead of complaining about the revision going through, you can still argue against it right? The grace period isn't over
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Also, this kinda stuff is completely unnecessary. Accusations of motives and taunting like this ain't gonna help anything and only just antagonizes people further, so please stop with these
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The problem is that we are not Japanese to look at whether this is right or wrong, we already have three staff members agreeing on this.
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Then get translators to help out
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I agree with you, but you should've rather said that directly to the user I've replied, whose participation on this thread was unnecessary. Besides that, I'm free to debate with anyone about the topic.
Fezzih_007
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I mean, even If you argue about the translations, no one said anything about the inconsistent section, you still would have to argue against that.
Should't be hard trought.
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But he is literally saying that quotes are hyperbole and poetry, I tried that, my friends tried too, but people were agreeing and not seeing the counterarguments in agreement, so that's what it turned out to be, more than three administrators agreeing as being hyperboles or poetry. I also don't have much knowledge about the Japanese dictionary, which he used during the Op, basically we can't do anything about it.
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I know who I'm addressing, that being the one making accusations like this and also not helping matters either by saying stuff like "whose participation on this thread was unnecessary." Anyone's free to participate in CRTs unless it's a staff-only thread
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We already got, @Executor_N0 commented and he agreed that it is best to not take it as literal infinite
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or they saw and still disagreed, you can't assume that they did or did not
dude this is not even the main point in the op
Ask another translator?
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"I explained when I gave it the translation before, it all boils down to how each person will understand that stuff. It's perfectly possible to someone understand any mention of "infinitely expensive" as "something that is finite, but is constantly growing at a fast pace" or "it's infinite and always growing because of that". I say that from personal experience because I have seen both cases coexisting in the Digimon series, for example. After that point it all that matters is how someone will decide to understand that as literal or not, and that is something I can't say anything about"
You talking about this right?
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No
"As such, the end of the thread already gives another reason to discuss it, as even if there were just uses of "mugen" isolated without any word about "expansion", it could still be something to be contested in regards to how the cosmology itself works in experience, and that seems to be the biggest reason why it might be better to not see the world of DB as being usable infinite."
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Oh ok...
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if the majority agreed then is dbz debunked? lol
but its really surprising that this was accepted considering it had rules on not changing the cosmology kek
but i dont get it
the word Hateshinai can be interpreted as both truly bring infinite or just being some poetry with most of the times being poetry, but the director himself said that the universe is infinite (even if he is unreliable) it should be interpreted as how the creator wants right?
but ig this point was brought up and got shotdown
but i dont get it
the word Hateshinai can be interpreted as both truly bring infinite or just being some poetry with most of the times being poetry, but the director himself said that the universe is infinite (even if he is unreliable) it should be interpreted as how the creator wants right?
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Akira never said that it was infinite, and the show has statements that imply that it isn't infinite, so
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Brah that's Koyama not Toriyama or Toyotaro.
Ringki_64
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but ig those were not enough?
my bad
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Koyama stated himself he's not really reliable on cosmology of dragon ball and has repeatedly said to "ask Toriyama"
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when is this thread getting closed?
not in 4 pages too
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Eh. DBZ isn't really debunked. It secures speed scaling (although it might be cut in half due to a CRT that applied to macrocosm calcs) since infinite speed wouldve most definitely be considered an outlier. Although a low 2-C qualifying space-time was lost. Good and bad came out of it.
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you should look at the twitter statements about koyama not knowing anything 
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bro this affects a couple profiles at most, nothing is debunked
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what was lost?
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cosmology?
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still 2-C
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(Canon) Dragon Ball Cosmology is indeed 2-C. This thread is about the cosmology of the matter within the universes (finite matter, instead of an infinite one).
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kaioshin
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The world of the Kaioshins has its own space-time in Toei, described in the work, lol, I believe it will not affect anything.
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Insufficient size due to this CRT. It was based on 1/10th of infinite still being infinite.
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The infinite universe was "debunked"
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But it is not universal in size, so now BOG feat is baseline 2-C
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Universe 7 still contains 3 space-times dude. Only infinite-sized Universe 7 has been downgraded from this
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3 space times yes, but the kaioshin realm is now not big enough for it to be a universal space time, so it means nothing for tier 2
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It's about universal in size wdym, even if it's not infinite it's 1/10 the size of Universe 7 which itself is bigger than our own universal model
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I'm not sure if the people who agreed in this CRT either:
1. Agreed mostly because the reason of the statements being misinterpretation.
2. Agreed mostly because the Inconsistencies section.
3. Agreed equally to the two above.
If most of the people here agreed mostly because of the inconsistencies in the series, I think the next CRT I'll make about DB will be much more simple than this one. Regardless, thanks to everyone who participate.
1. Agreed mostly because the reason of the statements being misinterpretation.
2. Agreed mostly because the Inconsistencies section.
3. Agreed equally to the two above.
If most of the people here agreed mostly because of the inconsistencies in the series, I think the next CRT I'll make about DB will be much more simple than this one. Regardless, thanks to everyone who participate.
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