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Doffy vs Meli

I don't see how doflamingo counters lostvayne, especially with the clones he'll just get overwhelmed trying to launch attacks at meliodas and get them sent back. Also revenge counter is gonna be hard for to deal with doflamingo
 
This is assuming the full counter will function against non-magical strings.

Also, Meliodas doesn't cuckspam Full Counter.
 
When he fought against the giant demons he literally used it and his clones and I'm pretty sure it was quick into the battle not like a last resort type of thing. So he likely would just use it relatively quick against doflamingo. But yea wo the assumption he'd probably fail at trying to fc and result to something else.
 
he doesn't spam full counter, the only times I can actually think he used it off the top of my head was Twigo, the Albion, the Monspeet & Derieri fight, and the literal end of the series.

Anyway, for the sake of the match, Full Counter probably won't work
 
Is Meliodas’s AP at baseline? If so, Doflamingo has a big AP advantage of 5.5.

Full Counter only works on magical attacks iirc and Doflamingo doesn’t have no magic.

While Meliodas can summon clones, they will be half as strong as Meliodas. And Doflamingo can make his clone in the form of Black Knight.
 
the 7-A comes from destroying an Albion, but i'll have to find where their 7-A rating comes from to be able to know.
 
Axxtentacle said:
the 7-A comes from destroying an Albion, but i'll have to find where their 7-A rating comes from to be able to know.
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I saw on the verse page that 7-A comes from upscaling from a 7-B+ Calc, just want to confirm whether there was a scaling to where Meliodas is at
 
Oh. He MASSIVELY scales above the 7-A Albion, if we're assuming it's baseline. He completely casually dices it's arm apart like butter, splitting it into like 6 pieces.
 
Oh. Cool. 7-A then.

Meliodas does massively upscale from the Albion, so he shouldn't be at a big disadvantage for this fight.
 
Doffy should be able to use parasito to just restrain Meliodas which he shouldn't be able to break free from due to Doffy having the Lifting strength advantage.

I'll give the win to Doffy.
 
How exactly does Parasito work, couldn't Meliodas cut it apart before it hits him?

Also, this Meliodas can use AOE darkness attacks, along with cloning himself, so he'd undoubtably be able to break out of it.
 
Parasito is basically Doflamingo attaching his strings onto his targets' spine at the base of the neck and manipulates their movements like marionettes. Iirc, usually only single strings seem to be enough. He could also use his threads to wrap around his target's limbs, restricting or controlling their movement in a different method.

While Meliodas can clone himself, it is mentioned that his clones have only half his power and the more he clone, the more weaker they become. Also, how many clones in total can he make or have shown able to make?

Also, forgot to mention that Doflamingo could turn the battlefield to his advantage by turning it into strings and attack Meliodas with Danmaku attacks or entrap him with strings so he wouldn’t dodge his attacks.
 
Meliodas with his darkness should be able to destroy the battlefield to stop doffy from controlling it with his darkness.
 
This version of Meliodas uses his Demon Mark a LOT. It's just a significant power up compared to his base, so it's likely that if Doflamingo Parasito'd him he'd activate his Demon mark, nuke the area with black flames like he did against Drole and Gloxinia, and start a counter-attack with significantly higher AP and speed.

He can make four clones, but they can all use all of his abilities as well. They are half of his strength though.
 
Reading his profile, if Meliodas is not in his Wrath State, then he gets one-shotted since only his Wrath State has Mountain level durability. And if he is in that state, then he will lose most of capacity of rational thought, making it easier for Doffy’s Observation Haki to predict his actions.

Doflamingo can create his Black Knight who can utilizes the same technique as the original as well.
 
Axxtentacle said:
He can make four clones, but they can all use all of his abilities as well. They are half of his strength though.
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From Meliodas' profile:

The number of clones determines the power level of each one. For instance, a single clone has half of Meliodas' power level, and that halved power level is divided evenly among each individual clone. So four clones would each have one-eighth the power level of the original Meliodas.
 
From Meliodas' profile:

The regeneration used by demons heals injuries but not the "damage" dealt. In practical terms, this has shown to mean that the more a demon regenerates the weaker they get, eventually reaching the point where they no longer have the energy to regenerate at all.

Doffy can simply barrage Meliodas until he can no longer regenerate
 
Yea using lostvayne he should be able to cut the strings pretty easily also can send out multiple slashes to cut them. Really don't think it's gonna be that useful. And again if he did get cornered or overwhelmed he'd go into wrath to deal the barrage of attacks.
 
Keep in mind Meliodas' demon physiology too: he can survive with only 1 heart despite naturally having seven
 
I don’t know if Meliodas could cut them that easily since he is the weaker of the two. Characters around 377MT and 420MT has difficulties even denting it, let alone cutting it.

Doflamingo has Precognition so he would be able to predict Meliodas’ actions and react to his attacks.

Even with Regeneration, the damage is stated to stay with him so if the damage is too great for him then he won’t be able to regenerate and Doflamingo can one-shot him if he is not in Wrath. His profile stated that under his Seal Healing section of his Power of Darkness: “This has been shown to mean that powerful enough attacks cannot be regenerated by a weaker demon, and they will eventually run out of enough energy and not be able to continue regenerating”. The gap between Meliodas‘ durability and Doflamingo is AP is about 38x if Meliodas’s durability is scaling to Gilthunder’s 14 Megatons feat, though this is not including Demon Mark.

Not to finally mention that Doffy has Regeneration Negation up to Mid with Buso Haki, so Meliodas‘ Regen doesn’t matter.
 
That is SO out of character that not even bloodlusted mindless Meliodas did it, ever. Even when he resorted to using his ORIGINAL DEMON KING MAGIC he still never did that. It's basically a non-factor for fights.
 
Doflamingo uses direct manipulation on select targets, NOT Parasito. Doflamingo is shown attaching several threads to the bodies of his desired targets for direct control. Parasito is comprised of sentient threads that attack the nape of the neck and cause individuals to attack at random (Which Doflamingo is never shown having conscious control over since he is shown focusing on separate matters while the ability is active). Doflamingo has only ever used this to cause chaos by taking control of many people at once. He does not use it in-character when in combat.

In any case, Meliodas does not have the power to break Doflamingo's threads, so if he's grappled, he is screwed, since Doflamingo would be able to wail on him until he dies. Meliodas' AP is only >>Baseline 7-A while Doflamingo is massively >>mid 7-A range (he has nearly killed or outright incapacitated characters of this level with one strike). Only thing keeping Mel in the fight is his regen.

Doflamingo could easily win via incapacitation or KO. He does not have to go through the effort of actually killing Meliodas.
 
BASE Meliodas is, yes. The demon mark is an amp that allows him to go from fighting someone almost completely evenly to blitzing them and destroying them with little effort.
 
Axxtentacle said:
BASE Meliodas is, yes. The demon mark is an amp that allows him to go from fighting someone almost completely evenly to blitzing them and destroying them with little effort.
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7-A Meliodas is just >Baseline. Doflamingo is >>5.5x Baseline without any amps. Mel's Wrath/Demon Mark is not going to give him the edge, or even close the gap.

To put it simply: Lostvayne Meliodas would be casually overpowered if not ko'd outright. Using Demon Mark/Wrath would--at best--make Doflamingo bleed assuming he doesn't bother to defend himself due to a moment of arrogance (low chance). Doflamingo's base AP would be more than sufficient for overpowering DM/W Mel.
 
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