Demon King vs Kaidou

[ssgengar]

I knew Kachon would show up lol

 

[Sus]

demon king, as an opening attack, can create an insanely toxic and powerful storm, can kaido withstand purgatorys poison? note that said storm also destroyed the surrounding area

I mean Haoshoku Haki grants fear inducement of its own and Kaido has fought users of it with no issue of being affected in that way

With Haki

Just because Haki also produces electricity doesn’t mean electricity resistance is going to counter its dura neg

the ruler

 

[Sus]

Ts getting blitzed

he only blitzes with thunder bagua, speed is equal

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Just because Haki also produces electricity doesn’t mean electricity resistance is going to counter its dura neg

0 Dura Negation mentionned on his profile, yap

 

[Lloydblitzed]

the ruler

^^

 

[Robo432343]

he only blitzes with thunder bagua, speed is equal

Shuron Hakke allowed him to blitz Luffy already accelerated far beyond his initial attacks which were already blitzing Kaidou's non Shuron-Hakke state. The more he drinks, the stronger and faster he gets, This is outside Thunder Bagua which is a blitz amp on top of that and greater Bagua variants such as Thunder Bellow and Destroyer Death, which are far superior to each other

 

[Robo432343]

What is the AP gap between the two

 

[Sus]

haki would be absorbed with the ruler anyway

considering that meliodas can use his demon abilities to amp his physicals, but can't use dark magic, i think kaido could use haki to get the ap amp, but not the abilities

not sure, correct me if im wrong

 

[Sus]

What is the AP gap between the two

kaido 67, 268.8 exatons while drunk (no haki)
demon king 378 exatons

 

[Lloydblitzed]

kaido 67, 268.8 exatons while drunk (no haki)
demon king 378 exatons

That's a one shot level gap

 

[Sus]

That's a one shot level gap

almost

and DK's sword is 10x his ap, aka 3.78 zettatons, aka almost 3x the bajrang gun which one shot kaido

kaido can't even incapitate DK

is this a stomp?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

almost

and DK's sword is 10x his ap, aka 3.78 zettatons, aka almost 3x the bajrang gun which one shot kaido

kaido can't even incapitate DK

Skill issues

is this a stomp?

Not sure due to speed advantage

 

[Sus]

off topic but who's larger DK or kaido?

 

[ssgengar]

demon king, as an opening attack, can create an insanely toxic and powerful storm, can kaido withstand purgatorys poison? note thay said storm also destroyed the surrounding area

It looks like that only damaged Ban who was right in his face, and the others behind him were either able to distance themselves or were just already not close enough to get affected

the ruler

I thought that just affects magic

 

[Lloydblitzed]

I thought that just affects magic

Verse Equalization left the chat

 

[ssgengar]

0 Dura Negation mentionned on his profile, yap

Brother click on Haki

 

[Kachon123]

What are DK's "wincons"

 

[Majinere566]

It looks like that only damaged Ban who was right in his face, and the others behind him were either able to distance themselves or were just already not close enough to get affected

Didn’t damage ban but it completely engulfed the surrounding areas dwarfing mountains. And they only survived because of King’s Pollen Garden which is practically a whole protection spell

 

[Sus]

What are DK's "wincons"

spammable 3.78 zetta ap, could straight up one shot if he wants

nullifies any non physical attack

thought that just affects magic

magic in nnt is anything non physical, even fire and electricity count as magic

 

[Sus]

I really think this is a stomp
kaido can't incapitate, can't use most of his hax, can get one shot if DK uses his sword

 

[ssgengar]

Didn’t damage ban but it completely engulfed the surrounding areas dwarfing mountains. And they only survived because of King’s Pollen Garden which is practically a whole protection spell

It’s definitely a large scale move, but it also starts out small then expands. I don’t see why Kaido can’t precog this

magic in nnt is anything non physical, even fire and electricity count as magic

See it affecting DF powers makes sense to me but the dura neg happens by directing the force of a physical blow into the body

 

[Sus]

It’s definitely a large scale move, but it also starts out small then expands. I don’t see why Kaido can’t precog this

dk can seal the ability, but he must know of it, if kaido reveals he has precog, dk can take it away

See it affecting DF powers makes sense to me but the dura neg happens by directing the force of a physical blow into the body

it is still an energy attack, why can't the dk reverse it?

even if he can't, he can regenerate

 

[Sus]

also, it's not in kaidos nature to dodge

 

[Eminiteable]

also, it's not in kaidos nature to dodge

That's only against characters too weak to actually harm him, he dodged attacks he sensed were actually a threat like against Zoro.

 

[Sus]

That's only against characters too weak to actually harm him, he dodged attacks he sensed were actually a threat like against Zoro.

fair

his speed advantage lets him dodge the attacks that could one shot, so there's still a fair fight going on

 

[DaReaperMan]

What are DK's "wincons"

 

[Sus]

dareaperman classic

 

[ssgengar]

dk can seal the ability, but he must know of it, if kaido reveals he has precog, dk can take it away

If he has to know of it then Kaido can use it to evade the storm before it gets sealed away

it is still an energy attack, why can't the dk reverse it?

even if he can't, he can regenerate

Yeah but physical attacks produce energy too, and in this case it’s just being forced into the body

Mid level regen right?

 

[Sus]

If he has to know of it then Kaido can use it to evade the storm before it gets sealed away

yes, he can't seal an ability he doesn't know of

Yeah but physical attacks produce energy too, and in this case it’s just being forced into the body

isn't the dura neg haki a specific technique used to emit said energy? sounds like it qualifies for a magic-equivalent

i don't even remember kaido using beyond advanced bosu, can u send a scan?

Mid level regen right?

yes, demons in NNT live as long as their 7 hearts are intact

and consider that DK is actually non corporeal, if dura neg actually works, only zeldris dies, the demon king can eject the commandments and possess something else after, only way to stop him is to drain his stamina

 

[Sus]

i checked the haki page

kaido does indeed not have dura neg

 

[Robo432343]

there is dura neg on the haki page

 

[Nierre]

this goes hard

who's bigger? im guessing the Demon King is

 

[Nierre]

ill wait for Kachon's evaluation

He's read both series so i trust his judgement

 

[Robo432343]

this goes hard

who's bigger? im guessing the Demon King is

apparently this key of DK is 6'3

 

[Nierre]

apparently this key of DK is 6'3

oh. he's not as big as i thought

 

[Robo432343]

oh. he's not as big as i thought

bro dont trust me i got my info from here

Demon King

The Demon King「魔神王」 is the ruler of the Demon Clan, as well as the one who handpicked the Ten Commandments and granted them their Commandments.[4] He is also the father of Meliodas and Zeldris, two of the most powerful demons and the two strongest members of the Ten Commandments. The Demon King...

nanatsu-no-taizai.fandom.com

 

[Nierre]

why do i ever trust u smh

 

[Majinere566]

apparently this key of DK is 6'3

6’3 possessing Meliodas

He’s however tall as the one Escanor is

 

[Robo432343]

6’3 possessing Meliodas

He’s however tall as the one Escanor is

is he 6'3 when possessing zeldris too

 

[Majinere566]

is he 6'3 when possessing zeldris too

Nah he’s the same height as the One Escanor, there’s no official height for The One Escanor but he’s massive