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Technically, It has to do with AP regardless if it destroys. Note my previous examples.Yes but in this case, it has nothing to do with AP, we can't use that to justify a 2-A upgrade
Because it's just a specific ability used for a specific purpose, it's like saying death manip or mind control can be used for AP, and above all it CANNOT be used for a 2-A upgrade simply because destroying books, no matter how much there are including if there's an infinite number, isn't even remotely comparable to destroying an infinite amount of universes and realities, space and time includedBro please how does that have nothing to do with AP? Wanda very casually deconstructed an infinite amount of books. That is definitely AP based.
Deconstruction really has something to do with AP, as it takes energy to take apart matter from it's constituent make up.Deconstruction is like, the last hax you can slap ap on. Even if it’s done physically, that means your like, picking An atom apart atom by atom. That’s crap ap. Good range doe
Well a universe in the mcu isnt infinite tbh, destroying the matter/Energy content of the universe should be less impressive than destroying an infinite massed object even if it is via deconstruction, so long as the said deconstruction takes energy to do so.Because it's just a specific ability used for a specific purpose, it's like saying death manip or mind control can be used for AP, and above all it CANNOT be used for a 2-A upgrade simply because destroying books, no matter how much there are including if there's an infinite number, isn't even remotely comparable to destroying an infinite amount of universes and realities, space and time included
The range is spectacular but it's NOT enough to get a 2-A upgrade
Since when?Well a universe in the mcu isnt infinite tbh, destroying the matter/Energy content of the universe should be less impressive than destroying an infinite massed object even if it is via deconstruction, so long as the said deconstruction takes energy to do so.
I really hope this is a joke, because we know Strange Supreme is still alive watching over Zola and KillmongerPeople have speculated whether or not the evil strange 616 strange fought was strange supreme (Because of the similar stories); I don't think it is, but if it was, Wanda would scale to Low 2-C via him.
I think it was more a self-induced punishment at the end of the seriesIsn't Strange Supreme also locked as consequence of what he did?
That's headcanon.Also weren’t all the books destroyed from her destroying the actual temple, which was the basis for all the books (which were just copies of what was in the temple?)
Oh yeah kek. All these evil Strange's makes things confusing.I really hope this is a joke, because we know Strange Supreme is still alive watching over Zola and Killmonger
Which part, the part where Wong specifically states the books are based on the spells in the temple, and that the books are just copies?That's headcanon.
I'm saying, it was never stated that "Because she destroyed this temple, all temples and darkhold books across the multiverse were destroyed as a result via chain reaction."Or the part where she drops the temple on herself and Zombie Strange, ending Strange’s dream walk at the same time the book starts burning?
It’s not explicitly stated, but again, Wong, the sorcerer supreme, states that all the darkhold books are just copies of the spells etched into the temple.I'm saying, it was never stated that "Because she destroyed this temple, all temples and darkhold books across the multiverse were destroyed as a result via chain reaction."
That's something you came up with.
All we actually got, was she destroyed the darkhold across the multiverse.
Since when was the universe not infinite? Imma go ahead and assume that's the question but since like the very birth of the universe, it has a standard day when the big bang happen and it's still expands, that's the whole point of the celestials creating new galaxies and lives.Since when?
Lol we are also gonna ignore that the destruction of the said books ignited them with flames right? Like that is nothing but deconstruction uh? And having at least 3 statements of universe destruction 2 from the socerer supreme and one from a book written by the very first demon Chthon is just hypothetical right? What else need to be said before it is accepted? Until she really does the said destruction? Like it's gon be the first time a character is getting a tier from statements?Also Wanda isn’t getting anything past tier 6 for destroying books or some hypothetical universe destruction statement with no details.
Yeah that is also being discussed but that doesnt mean statements of her high end feats shouldnt be recognized am saying maybe she gets at least 6C possibly high 3a or something along that line since her universal statements are coming from Very very reliable sources and the last time the socerers made mention of a being with such magnitude of power was dormamu, dude literally has ZERO universal feat but we scaled to just one or two statements from socerers not scaling wanda especially when she already exhibited multiversal range feat is just being biased hereWe should talk about her actual feats like lifting that entire mountain, killing CM, etc.
We don't scale him only for that, we have scans openly saying things that backup this level of powerdude literally has ZERO universal feat but we scaled to just one or two statements from socerers not scaling wanda especially when she already exhibited multiversal range feat is just being biased here
Scans? From the movie?We don't scale him only for that, we have scans openly saying things that backup this level of power
From the movie and the official MCU guidebookScans? From the movie?
Death manip and all that are abstract abilities therefore, nothing to do with energy (joules of energy to be exact)Because it's just a specific ability used for a specific purpose, it's like saying death manip or mind control can be used for AP
I have never said a 2-A upgrade tho??and above all it CANNOT be used for a 2-A upgrade simply because destroying books, no matter how much there are including if there's an infinite number, isn't even remotely comparable to destroying an infinite amount of universes and realities, space and time included
The range is spectacular but it's NOT enough to get a 2-A upgrade
H3A via deconstruction
Deconstruction happens via energy. I still believe that'll be H3A
ThisLol we are also gonna ignore that the destruction of the said books ignited them with flames right? Like that is nothing but deconstruction uh? And having at least 3 statements of universe destruction 2 from the socerer supreme and one from a book written by the very first demon Chthon is just hypothetical right? What else need to be said before it is accepted? Until she really does the said destruction? Like it's gon be the first time a character is getting a tier from statements?
Yeah that is also being discussed but that doesnt mean statements of her high end feats shouldnt be recognized am saying maybe she gets at least 6C possibly high 3a or something along that line since her universal statements are coming from Very very reliable sources and the last time the socerers made mention of a being with such magnitude of power was dormamu, dude literally has ZERO universal feat but we scaled to just one or two statements from socerers not scaling wanda especially when she already exhibited multiversal range feat is just being biased here
PerhapsLol we are also gonna ignore that the destruction of the said books ignited them with flames right? Like that is nothing but deconstruction uh? And having at least 3 statements of universe destruction 2 from the socerer supreme and one from a book written by the very first demon Chthon is just hypothetical right? What else need to be said before it is accepted? Until she really does the said destruction? Like it's gon be the first time a character is getting a tier from statements?
None other than statements was mentioned in the movie and if i remember Wanda has more cossistent statement of being a universal - Multiversal threat than Dormammu had in the first DS movie.From the movie and the official MCU guidebook
This. Also Strange didn't know about the book of Vishanti but Wong did, why? because Wong has access to books for being the Sorcerer Supreme, in one of them The Scarlet Witch comes up. Wong stated the multiverse threat the Scarlet Witch is. He knows what he's talking about.None other than statements was mentioned in the movie and if i remember Wanda has more cossistent statement of being a universal - Multiversal threat than Dormammu had in the first DS movie.
Official handbook if there is one for DS 2 am pretty sure it will say the same thing about the Scarlet Witch...it just dont change the fact that Dormammu is 2C with Zero Universal feat and Wanda who has more consistent statement and even related range feat is still being argued on whether or not she should scale.
Just seem the movie, goddamn it was crazy, it was like a horror movie out of nowhere and also did Wanda die by making that structure fall onto her? And did Strange become the new supreme?
I see, but it did look like she sacrificed herself for good, after she seen her children scared of her. And I did ask because Strange suddenly grew a third eye on his forehead.Wanda didn't die. They need her gone to the Child's Crusade.
And no. Wong remained the Sorcerer Supreme.
I see, but it did look like she sacrificed herself for good, after she seen her children scared of her. And I did ask because Strange suddenly grew a third eye on his forehead.
If that punch harmed Wanda then whatever her durability is.And what do you guys suppose the tiering for America Chavez should be? She does create portals to different multiverses, and she did harm Wanda. Which I don't think she's a glass cannon anymore at this point.
He never destroy, he only said rule. And she's got mind had after all.What about Wong saying she is prophetised to either rule or destroy the cosmos? I imagine that at least could warrant a "Possibly High 3-A/Low 2-C"
Wait, then who was that other strange that got impaled onto the gates?Imagine if Strange Supreme was in the movie, he'd be dancing over everyone lmao
A random evil strange with a backstory similar to strange supreme.Wait, then who was that other strange that got impaled onto the gates?
That's an entirely different strange.Wait, then who was that other strange that got impaled onto the gates?