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Okay, I won't argue. I trust your judgment
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[MCU] Scarlet Witch scale rewording
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According to you, both Agatha and Sinister Strange should scale to High 3A with the Darkhold? Wouldn’t mainstream Strange theoretically scale from Sinister Strange as well?
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An article on Marvel's website about dreamwalking indicates that the extent of how much magic can actually be used from the Darkhold depends on the power of the sorcerer using it:
In addition to that, not just anyone who wields the Darkhold can cast the dreamwalking spell. “It’s a spell that maybe only Wanda and Strange are the only sorcerers in existence strong enough to even do it,” stressed Waldron. “It’s nearly impossible. And as Mordo said, it’s impossible to hold for a very long time. There’s a reason that Wanda doesn’t just stay living in that body. You see it on her; it takes such intense concentration even for The Scarlet Witch to maintain that dreamwalk. It’s a mentally, physically exhausting spell. It’s a dirty one; it’s in the back pages of the Darkhold.”
In addition to that, not just anyone who wields the Darkhold can cast the dreamwalking spell. “It’s a spell that maybe only Wanda and Strange are the only sorcerers in existence strong enough to even do it,” stressed Waldron. “It’s nearly impossible. And as Mordo said, it’s impossible to hold for a very long time. There’s a reason that Wanda doesn’t just stay living in that body. You see it on her; it takes such intense concentration even for The Scarlet Witch to maintain that dreamwalk. It’s a mentally, physically exhausting spell. It’s a dirty one; it’s in the back pages of the Darkhold.”
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This statement implies that both Strange and Wanda are the only sorcerers strong enough to fully use the Darkhold. Sinister Strange is comparable to Mainstream Strange.
If we apply what @ActuallySpaceMan42 said, it’s reasonable to assume that Sinister Strange could achieve the same power level since it’s not a baseline but tied to the Darkhold’s amplification.
Honestly, I’m pretty confused about this, and the whole topic seems pretty controversial. I think I’ll wait and see what others have to say.
If we apply what @ActuallySpaceMan42 said, it’s reasonable to assume that Sinister Strange could achieve the same power level since it’s not a baseline but tied to the Darkhold’s amplification.
Honestly, I’m pretty confused about this, and the whole topic seems pretty controversial. I think I’ll wait and see what others have to say.
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I agree with ActuallySpaceMan42
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I agree with above information. This may prove that only she can be upgraded to High 3-A, as not all users have access to darkhold full power
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Should Sinister Strange and Doctor Strange also be upgraded to High 3-A with the Darkhold?
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There is no clear indication that the pair have access to the full power of the darkhold, only Dr Strange is able to have range. with darkhold through the spell dreamwalk
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Excluding Doctor Strange, in my opinion, is inconsistent because it’s clearly stated that Strange’s ability to use dreamwalking and his access to the Darkhold’s power at least give him grounds to be considered on Wanda’s level. Wanda herself requires “intense concentration and effort” and is described as being “mentally and physically exhausted” from the Darkhold’s power, implying she can’t reach any further power. In this case, Strange is relative to her, as they are the only two capable of performing dreamwalking.
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I don't understand what you're trying to say. The official book clearly states that she uses spells and energy from other dimensions to destroy the darkhold in every universe. All you have to do is prove that Doctor Strange can do the same to her. dreamwalk spell is just one of the darkhold spells. Using it doesn't mean doctor strange can use all of darkhold power
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They're saying only elite sorcerers or witches can perform even the hardest spells locked inside the Darkhold. If Wanda and Dr. Strange are the only ones who can, they "should" be relatively comparable in power. Although I don't think it is sufficient proof to say that Dr. Strange could perform Wanda's feat.
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Yeah
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Darkhold High 3-A better
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The Darkhold is High 3-A at peak (for now) and people who have possessed it should only scale to their individual feats imo.
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I agree with you, because the official website states that the dreamwalk spell is a spell that is almost impossible for anyone to use. Only dr strange and scarlet witch can use it, proving that not everyone can. can scale to scarlet witch feats.
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Bump?
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