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Yeah, it took her some time to truly destroy them and he briefly overpowered her in his zombified body
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I mean… Should that scale to his Magic? They were summons afterall.Pretty sure it was when he sent those snakes at her and it took several blasts and her actually exerting herself to destroy them + darkhold strange where he just blatantly momentarily overpowered her. He should get greater power null for nullifying the chaos magic Wanda had restraining America and maybe life manip for the snakes too.
Wasn’t that because the Souls Could Eat her Chaos Magic?Yeah, it took her some time to truly destroy them and he briefly overpowered her in his zombified body
Yes because the supposed "summons" never left his hands and engaged in combat independently, they were always being powered by his magic. Not to mention the facial strain he showed further proving he was exerting himself and it wasn't just the "summons."I mean… Should that scale to his Magic? They were summons afterall.
Weren't those the same beings he was the one who overpowered and took under his control anyway?Wasn’t that because the Souls Could Eat her Chaos Magic?
And even then they weren't able to do it for long, it was just a way to buy some time.Wasn’t that because the Souls Could Eat her Chaos Magic?
Yeah, but overpowering them doesn’t mean using them to overpower Wanda scales him to Wanda if she has a natural weakness to the Souls of the Damned. It would be like, say Wonder Woman Overpowers Lex Luther’s Kryptonite Suite and then we scale Wonder Woman from Superman because she could take out Lex’s Suite.Weren't those the same beings he was the one who overpowered and took under his control anyway?
Fair enough.Yes because the supposed "summons" never left his hands and engaged in combat independently, they were always being powered by his magic. Not to mention the facial strain he showed further proving he was exerting himself and it wasn't just the "summons."
Which Wanda them proccessed to destroy once she got pissed off enough and casually one-shot Zombie Strange. He didn't overpower her at any moment, like i said, he was using the fact the souls could momentarily eat her magic to buy time so he could talk to America and have her control her powers.Weren't those the same beings he was the one who overpowered and took under his control anyway?
I don't think Strange was really fighting herWhich Wanda them proccessed to destroy once she got pissed off enough and casually one-shot Zombie Strange. He didn't overpower her at any moment, like i said, he was using the fact the souls could momentarily eat her magic to buy time so he could talk to America and have her control her powers.
Fair regardless though with magical power he did overpower and restrain her by himself, lifting her into the air and giving enough time for Wong to further restrain her so I think the scaling would make sense.Yeah, but overpowering them doesn’t mean using them to overpower Wanda scales him to Wanda if she has a natural weakness to the Souls of the Damned. It would be like, say Wonder Woman Overpowers Lex Luther’s Kryptonite Suite and then we scale Wonder Woman from Superman because she could take out Lex’s Suite.
It would make no sense. SotD are basically portrayed to be a kind of “Kryptonite” for Wanda since they eat her power.
Didn't she one shot before he could get any magic up and then used hax on the already decomposing body? And the fact that she had to get pissed to blast them away (she never visually destroyed them) compared to how she casually fought everyone else throughout the movie speaks volumes but alr.Which Wanda them proccessed to destroy once she got pissed off enough and casually one-shot Zombie Strange. He didn't overpower her at any moment, like i said, he was using the fact the souls could momentarily eat her magic to buy time so he could talk to America and have her control her powers.
He wasn't, that's the point. He was just buying time. At no point he "overpowered" her, which is what the OP i replied to was saying.I don't think Strange was really fighting her
Her showing that she is able outright destroy them despite them being able to eat her magic at first also says a lot actually.Didn't she one shot before he could get any magic up and then used hax on the already decomposing body? And the fact that she had to get pissed compared to how she casually fought everyone else throughout the movie speaks volumes but alr.
She never did destroy them on-screen, just blasted them away but that's beside the point. I'm referencing her getting pissed at the fact that their magic restrained her for about a minute (in which we don't rlly see any magic absorption to your point) before she has to exert herself.Her showing that she is able outright destroy them despite them being able to eat her magic at first also says a lot actually.
And it's not like her getting pissed matters in regards to Strange anyway cause again, these souls could eat her magic, it wasn't a matter of power.
IIRC, even Christine can interact with these souls. Btw, strange should get resistant to corruptionShouldn't Strange have NPI for interacting with souls/ghosts at the end of the movie?
Ppl are theorizing that Wanda absorbed her cosmic energy reducing her durability to the point that a statue falling could kill her but that's just headcanon and more likely it's just bad writing.And also, how does that one variant of Captain Marvel that Scarlet Witch killed go down instantly because of a puny statue?
It's because the souls were surrounding her and not allowing her to use her magic like a swarm of bees, we literally see that when he sends them onto her and she's busy trying to get them off, they just took the opportunity from that to contain her further with them, which ultimately didn't work. Not to count the fact they also have that weird Mind thing they were trying to do with her like they did with Strange, which also didn't work.I'm referencing her getting pissed at the fact that their magic restrained her for about a minute (in which we don't rlly see any magic absorption to your point) before she has to exert herself.
That's fair. Strange then gets absorption hax for magic, some form of mind hax with the demons ig in that key. Main strange still just downscales from at least 6-C.It's because the souls were surrounding her and not allowing her to cast her magic like a swarm of bees, we literally see that when he sends them onto her and she's busy trying to get them off, they just took the opportunity from that to contain her further with them, which ultimately didn't work. Not to count the fact they also have that weird Mind thing they were trying to do with her like they did with Strange.
Like, we literally see her casually breaking the magic sphere Wong put around her with her hand, the souls were the only thing there truly containing her for the short time they did because they could eat her magic.
The souls had to tank the shots first but yeah, they could eat her Magic after enduring itWasn’t that because the Souls Could Eat her Chaos Magic?
Nah, it took some time for her to break out though I believe this was because of the souls overpowering herthe very moment he puts her in it
I am talking about the moment Wong puts her in the Magic Sphere, literally 2 seconds after he puts her in it she casually breaks through it with her hand but the souls hold her arm to try to prevent her from reaching out further, with Wong saying she was starting to break free from them already.Nah, it took some time for her to break out.
Oh that, then yes (it really shwos Strange is the superior magician, Sorcerer Supreme or not)I am talking about the moment Wong puts her in the Magic Sphere, literally 2 seconds after he puts her in it she casually breaks through it with her hand but the souls hold her arm to try to prevent her from reaching out further, with Wong saying she was starting to break free from them already.
Strange should also get body puppetry for making that guy punch himself for an extended period of time and Wanda needs resistance to spatial manipulation after tanking America's punches.IIRC, even Christine can interact with these souls. Btw, strange should get resistant to corruption
Funny scene lolStrange should also get body puppetry for making that guy punch himself for an extended period of time.
Wasnt that curse manipulation?Strange should also get body puppetry for making that guy punch himself for an extended period of time
Well those puches can be for 2 purposes just casual punch or to open Portals.and Wanda needs resistance to spatial manipulation after tanking America's punches.
Tom Holland looks like a ******* child thoughAnd I'm surprised that America Chavez is an actual kid other than another adult playing a teenagerLooking at you, Tom Holland
Yeah, I asked before but I wonder that's spatial manip or bfr or bothWanda needs resistance to spatial manipulation after tanking America's punches.
Strange should also get body puppetry for making that guy punch himself for an extended period of time
Basically this:Funny scene lol
She was absorbing her power beam which started to take off pieces of CM's armor which is energy based.And also, how does that one variant of Captain Marvel that Scarlet Witch killed go down instantly because of a puny statue?