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Most of my matches tend to need 2 months to reach grace, so I feel you.SpookyShadow said:I'm sad that my first grace took around a month and this shitty match is going to be concluded in one day ._.
Eficiente said:[I never said time stop itself wouldn't work within erased time, attacking Diavolo is what wouldn't work. Sure, without time one wouldn't be able to stop it, but no one should be able to even move as well, this is why Diavolo has Causality Manipulation, the application of that power is what makes every attack on Diavolo do nothing. If Diavolo had something like intangibility that would be bypassed by a number of stuff, but what he does if take away an uncommon concept from the rest of the universe that they need to be able to affect him. That's why you can see users saying that Diavolo can survive a lot of OP things like blows with an AP millions of times above KC's, mindhax, and, in this case, attacks within stopped time. They all lack what's needed to affect Diavolo when there is no "time".]
Though I do think Diavolo has something on the degree of this I don't think is as potent or as powerful as the page you linked makes it seem not that it really matters in this particular match up imo but still.
-50 meters distanceThe Calaca said:I know. It was a terrible joke to begin with.
@Emperor then what's stopping Jotaro from Za Warudoing and whooping his sardinian butt into oblivion inside the stopped time stop exactly?
When time is stopped, time still exists. It's just that whatever Jotaro does, simply happens in 0 seconds since its flow is stopped. Since time still exists, Diavolo can still erase it.The Calaca said:BTW, how is Diavolo skipping stopped time exactly? There's no flow of time in... stopped time. He shouldn't be able to skip time that is frozen.
1) Again, precog, keeps time erase, and now Jotaro can't stop time due to his cooldown. And no, we don't know if Jotaro will immediately know that, people after time erase was unaware of having food in his mouth and more stuff like that, Jotaro will have an idea of what to expect but that doesn't remove the fact that he never experienced it before like Pol or Bruno & his team when Diavolo was under PIS and spamming his power for no reason. 2) That's fair, it was more so added due to your comment before about it tho. 3) That is false, again, the precog works within time erase and he wouldn't see what Jotaro does in the time stop, he will see the result of it; Himself damaged. Also even if he only gets his precog before the time erase he will see himself attacked in the position in which he's about to put himself...so yeah.Re2Y said:1)If he throws blood at him Jotaro will know immediately anyways and SP is fast enough to react to that imo if not again Jotaro will know time is skipped and panic time stop. 2) the "It's luck I was barely able to dodge him once" is luck because it depends on fast you're stand is and if you guess at what angle Diavolo is coming from, that doesn't matter because Jotaro doesn't have to move a muscle to activate time stop. 3) In this scenario his precog won't matter as he would have already activated KC and those ten seconds are up also I don't think Epitaph can see through stopped time I think all he'd see is the outcome or him getting blown back.
As other said before, he does. I mean come on, if only the results end up happening then what do you think is being taken away? Time stop following its own rules is a headcanon, so it is to say that Jotaro is no longer in time erase via using time stop. Then again, Jotaro's own time would need resistence to getting erased or he would need to create his own time within time stop.Re2Y said:https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Causality_Manipulation Yeah Diavolo doesn't have any of that. But I think the possibility of Star Platinum not being able to attack during time skip is possible but not a guarantee since KC can't touch anyone during his time Erasure so Jotaro shouldn't either but it's also possible that time stop follows it's own rules that allows him to attack Diavolo since technically Jotaro's in stopped time not time skip once he activates it.
As other said before, he does. I mean come on, if only the results end up happening then what do you think is being taken away? Time stop following its own rules is a headcanon, so it is to say that Jotaro is no longer in time erase via using time stop. Then again, Jotaro's own time would need resistence to getting erased or he would need to create his own time within time stop.Re2Y said:https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Causality_Manipulation Yeah Diavolo doesn't have any of that. But I think the possibility of Star Platinum not being able to attack during time skip is possible but not a guarantee since KC can't touch anyone during his time Erasure so Jotaro shouldn't either but it's also possible that time stop follows it's own rules that allows him to attack Diavolo since technically Jotaro's in stopped time not time skip once he activates it.