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Diamondhead (Omni-Kix) vs Magus (Chrono Trigger) (High 6-B Tourney)

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Round 4:
Same Rules as stated in the Tournament.
The dark mage aka The Demon king Magus ! goes up against the crystal alien it's Ben Tennyson as Diamondhead.
Results:
Magus: 4 (kazuma, Lephyr, psycho, I'mNot4)
Damondhead-Omni-Kix:
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Okay so AP is nigh equal, DH resists half of Magus’ notable attacks section, Magus has the LS advantage by far, DH’s regen means that darkness attacks landing isn’t gonna do much over the course of the fight. For me, it comes down to how likely is Magus to use BFR/black hole or memory hax and how those two work.
 
Magus uses dark matter mid way fight as a boss, also, his forcefield reduce the damage from punches, energy blasts, arrows and slices (everything the main heros can do at that moment) so diamondhead attacks are affected except if he is lucky and use electricity when the forcefield is weak to that element

But, when he is casting dark matter, the forcefield is not activated, he needs to concentrate to cast the spell
 
Diamondhead in Omni Kix form doesn't uses electricity it's only for his Omni Enhanced form instead he gets Immortality type 6 along with all of his base powers.
 
DemonicDude said:
Diamondhead in Omni Kix form doesn't uses electricity it's only for his Omni Enhanced form instead he gets Immortality type 6 along with all of his base powers.
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"All previous abilities to a much greater extent, Immortality (Type 6) (Can transfer his consciousness to any nearby crystal and keep on using his main body as a decoy to distract enemies while sneaking up behind them with a new body.)"

Then the page should say "except electricity manipulation" but I trust your word
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
You cannot edit a profile without making a CRT first.
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It was originally supposed to be as all aliens only in their Omni-enhnced forms gains the ability to use electricity, this was discussed back in the CRT however due to grammatical error was left out when I made his profile.
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
In regards to the match itself...

I'm not seeing resistance to transmutation. Magus turns him into a frog eventually.
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How does his transmission works does he needs to touch the opponents or hit em with a blast ? if so then DH keeps his distances during the fight via crystal surfing and deflects by a shield.
 
Magus should also have Life Manip via Sap, it worked on inorganic beings like Robo and negates dura. It's very slow, but it essentially drains life from Diamondhead, so regardless, Magus can put Diamondhead on a timer
 
Should be noted, however

Magus does incorporate CQC on his fighting style (he literally tried an iaidō strike against Lavos), and is pretty comparable to Frog and Crono in skill, both very accomplished swordsmen, particularly Frog who was regarded as the best swordsman in the entire kingdom (and in one of the endings, it shows them both fighting in melee, with an ambiguous ending on who won; and that's frog using a sword that's designed to counter Magus, while Magus was occupied with his ritual to summon Lavos)

So if Diamondhead can deal with him in CQC and one shot in some way, that may nail him the win.
 
Plus, Magus barrier is plenty op. Any elemental attack Diamondhead try will immediately get cancelled, as he needs to match the element of the barrier.

Said barrier is passive during his boss fight.
 
DemonicDude said:
If it's indeed a lightning bolt than Diamondhead can both dodge / deflect via crystal structures just like he did against Magican Hex's magic attack.

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It's a bolt that spawns directly on top of him. Kind of difficult to dodge, much less deflect if Diamondhead needs to move his arms in wide arcs to summon his crystals.
 
"In the first phase, Magus is protected by his powerful Barrier spell, which is a stronger form of the protection offered by the Barrier Sphere, and also has a very high physical defense. Each time he is hit, he will respond with Barrier Change, a spell that allows him to randomly shift to one of the four elemental weaknesses while absorbing the elements that are not weaknesses. In addition to the barrier-shift, he will cast a spell that matches his weakness; Fire II for Fire, Lightning II for Light, Ice II for Water, and Dark Bomb for Shadow. Out of all the Barrier shifts, the Dark Bomb is the only single-target spell. At some points in the first battle, he will cast Hell Geyser, less damaging than the barrier-shift spells, but it inflicts the Sap (HP Down) status. He will also use his physical attack, which does medium damage. Frog's Masamune is the only weapon that can inflict damage without causing Magus' magic barrier to change and lowers Magus' magic defense. "
 
Kazuma_kuwabara said:
"In the first phase, Magus is protected by his powerful Barrier spell, which is a stronger form of the protection offered by the Barrier Sphere, and also has a very high physical defense. Each time he is hit, he will respond with Barrier Change, a spell that allows him to randomly shift to one of the four elemental weaknesses while absorbing the elements that are not weaknesses. In addition to the barrier-shift, he will cast a spell that matches his weakness; Fire II for Fire, Lightning II for Light, Ice II for Water, and Dark Bomb for Shadow. Out of all the Barrier shifts, the Dark Bomb is the only single-target spell. At some points in the first battle, he will cast Hell Geyser, less damaging than the barrier-shift spells, but it inflicts the Sap (HP Down) status. He will also use his physical attack, which does medium damage. Frog's Masamune is the only weapon that can inflict damage without causing Magus' magic barrier to change and lowers Magus' magic defense. "
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Stupid barrier forcing you to time your attacks correctly. ovo

And yeah, the Masamune countering him is the only reason the heroes could beat him at that point in the game. It is 100% required to do... Anything, because of its nature of absorbing/negating magic. In particular because of his barrier.

When Frog fought 1 on 1 against Magus later on, he didn't have the barrier anymore, so Frog could beat him. (It is unknown how Magus lost his barrier)
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
Stupid barrier forcing you to time your attacks correctly. ovo

And yeah, the Masamune countering him is the only reason the heroes could beat him at that point in the game. It is 100% required to do... Anything, because of its nature of absorbing/negating magic. In particular because of his barrier.

When Frog fought 1 on 1 against Magus later on, he didn't have the barrier anymore, so Frog could beat him. (It is unknown how Magus lost his barrier)
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Magus was extremely tired after his """""fight""""" with Lavos, who stole part of his strenght and magic capacities
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
Magus does incorporate CQC on his fighting style (he literally tried an iaidō strike against Lavos), and is pretty comparable to Frog and Crono in skill, both very accomplished swordsmen, particularly Frog who was regarded as the best swordsman in the entire kingdom
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That is good fighting experience but then again Diamondhead went toe to toe against the Agent Six who is titled sixth dangerous man of Earth and against vilgax who is a warlord of the galaxy for around 3000 years of experience yet he defeated them.
Naitodesu said:
Magus should also have Life Manip via Sap, it worked on inorganic beings like Robo and negates dura. It's very slow, but it essentially drains life from Diamondhead, so regardless, Magus can put Diamondhead on a timer
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Can opponent still move/fight when slowly their life is draining if so Diamondhead would still put up a fight since Reboot Ben has resistance to mind hax and supernatural willpower to keep fighting listed in his feats which I'll mention below:

 
Lavos is skilled in the sense that he is the culmination and perfect amalgam of every living creature that has existed for the last 65 million years lol
 
Naitodesu said:
Lavos is skilled in the sense that he is the culmination and perfect amalgam of every living creature that has existed for the last 65 million years lol
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And can see infinite timelines at once, and also summoned the powers and abilities of every boss across the game enhanced, including Magus himself, while on top summoning alternate timeline versions of itself whenever close to losing until they figured out his core.

That's insane.
 
Should also-also note,
Magus is so skilled in magic, that the guy that awakened the cast's magic potential and essentially trained them claimed that Magus could teach him

So Magus is the most likely the greatest magic user of all time, greater than his sister and mother, who come from a kingdom where basically everyone are magic users. And this is also shown when he completed a ritual to summon Lavos, where his mother required the power of his entire kingdom and a machine powered by Lavos itself to accomplish the same thing.

Edit: Not only did they require all that, Magus himself actually helped them to accomplish it in the first place, disguised as a "prophet", becoming the queen's right hand man.
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
You cannot edit a profile without making a CRT first.
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I mean he’s probably the one who 1) made the page, 2) is the most knowledgeable on Ben 10 reboot, 3) minor edit and 4) you seemed to have misunderstood since the Omni-forms aren’t all like “evolutions” of each other. They’re different forms that stack onto base, so in fact it should be reworded to “has all abilities and resistances of base”.
 
Greenshifter said:
I mean he’s probably the one who 1) made the page, 2) is the most knowledgeable on Ben 10 reboot, 3) minor edit and 4) you seemed to have misunderstood since the Omni-forms aren’t all like “evolutions” of each other. They’re different forms that stack onto base, so in fact it should be reworded to “has all abilities and resistances of base”.
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This was already resolved.

I didn't even question it, btw. Simply said that any addition require a crt.
 
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