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literally the supersonic oni fightKE can only be used when the character is attacking and in this same attack shows a relevant speed feat. This never happened with Tanjiro, he never performed a speed feat while attacking.
Although this 9-A feat of Zenitsu's is questionable if it is usable or not
I've replied to the blog once more.bump. calculation was approved
Actually while I approved that attack I've been thinking I was wrong in doing that so I wouldn't call that the best example. Although that's mostly because such an impact would leave a much bigger crater.KE feats are allowed apparently as long as the attack happens at that speed and we can prove that.
Example: Invincible (tv series) has a 7-A feat for slamming Allen the alien into the moon at 2% rel speed.
Still not the same movement, aka calc stacking.he displayed speed in the same scene
BTW Armor, MPa is the same thing as J/cc in case you didn't notice. One joule per cubic centimeter is equal to 1 million pascals (Or megapascal if you wanna keep it short). But for some reason I cannot comment on the blog due to some fandom error.snip
Holy **** that is indeed a lot better than I expected.Remade the boulder calc since the region destroyed is much wider than the blade.
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba - Tanjiro splits a boulder Redux
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Cutting in general would rely on compressive strength regardless since you're pressing down on the rock itself with a blade like you would generally crush a rock with a hydraulic press. A little bit of rock being left behind really wouldn't matter in this case.Uh, the stone could have just fallen apart a bit after being cut.
Regardless, it is still not a perfect cut and would definitely be wider than the blade itself. How wide tho, I cannot accurately explain.The width used in this calculation is what I have issue with. There's no evidence that 20-something cm was the actual width of the cut instead of just the amount by which the stone's halves moved after being cut.
I used the scene where Tanjiro's blade is in the rock, I got thicknesses ranging from 5.23-9.6 cm for the area cut depending on where you measure it (Widest point is 9.6 while narrowest is 5.23).I mean, yeah, the perfect cut formula is a lowball Ugarik said it himself, but like, we can't just assume it was 20 centimeters. I cannot accept this calculation.
Split? Yes, but the two sides of the rock aren't exactly tipping to the sides either.Yeah but that's still a few seconds after the feat itself happens so the rock would have had all the time to split and fall apart a bit.
Well then I got nothing other than just "go with the sword blade thickness and slap 214.35 on it instead of 60 because compressive strength"... Yeah and? It clearly only fell apart by a bit, but it still did. That is perfectly possible.
Doesn't seem to be any notable tilting.Uh, the stone could have just fallen apart a bit after being cut.
I don't, you need to prove that it didn't. And I'm gonna be honest, even if it was an instantaneous feat and and the allegedly destroyed area was much bigger (or smaller) than that, you'd need incredibly strong evidence, which doesn't exist here.If it is not something we can observe, how can you demonstrate that a tilt this big occurred?
"Cut something bigger than your sword should logically allow" is literally the most common manga cliche ever, not really an argument. Especially the sword is still the main cutting tool. Hell does he even ever use the Breathing for actual cutting at this point of the story? Best I can remember is him redirecting some vectors with it and even that's after some character development.It is of note that the shockwave of Breathing Techniques is in effect, as the boulder is longer than Tanjiro's sword.
This includes cutting something wider than the sword as well."Cut something bigger than your sword" is literally the most common manga cliche ever, not really an argument. Especially the sword is still the main cutting tool. Hell does he even ever use the Breathing for actual cutting at this point of the story?
No, not really. Something tilting a bit after being cut is perfectly reasonable, and the small movement it did is perfectly consistent with the shape of the boulder. But even if the boulder was rectangular, I could still just say the force of the cut pushed the halves away, which is still more realistic than a sword, which is meant to make cutting stuff easily because of its low surface area, disintegrating a large portion of stone despite the fact that all Tanjiro needed to do to pass the test was split it.Then the evidence presented points at lack of tilting, and is counter evidence for the speculative claim that tilting this large occurred.
No it doesn't? I see no evidence of that, unless you're trying to say the waterfall basin visuals are what's being cut. Besides, it's one specific technique he isn't using in the boulder feat. Would you like me to point at the dozen of clean cuts in the series? I mean I've only watched the anime so far but there's dozens.This includes cutting something wider than the sword as well.
Cool. His swing still didn't have those visual effects tho.Tanjiro spent six months improving his Water Breathing Techniques under the instruction of Makomo, until he surpassed Sabito.
By 'bit' do you mean almost the length of a forearm? If you mean insignificant tilting so small it cannot be noticed, then sure.No, not really. Something tilting a bit after being cut is perfectly reasonable, and the small movement it did is perfectly consistent with the shape of the boulder. But even if the boulder was rectangular, I could still just say the force of the cut pushed the halves away, which is still more realistic than a sword, which is meant to make cutting stuff easily because of its low surface area, disintegrating a large portion of stone despite the fact that all Tanjiro needed to do to pass the test was split it.
With one vertical slash he created a 180-degree attack, and sliced multiple hands flanking him.No it doesn't? I see no evidence of that, unless you're trying to say the waterfall basin visuals are what's being cut. Besides, it's one specific technique he isn't using in the boulder feat. Would you like me to point at the dozen of clean cuts in the series? I mean I've only watched the anime so far but there's dozens.
Narratively, he was using Breathing Techniques; this is undisputable. The elemental visuals are illusionary (though the kinetic force seems to correspond to their shape), so them not appearing can be chalked to Tanjiro having a spiritual vision throughout his training, a design choice to enhance the build-up of Sabito being defeated swiftly with one strike, or the elemental effects concept not being implemented in the first chapters of the story.Cool. His swing still didn't have those visual effects tho.
It's not fully flat, so it tilting a bit is perfectly realistic. You can keep disagreeing but that won't change it, but you really should stop exaggerating the amount by which it tilted. Again that's like, five, seven degrees at best, a very small amount. Not the length of a forearm at all, maybe the width of one if you use the panel in which Tanjiro is actually cutting the thingBy 'bit' do you mean almost the length of a forearm? If you mean insignificant tilting so small it cannot be noticed, then sure.
A flat base doesn't afford room for tilting movement. If the boulder was pushed away, the remaining part at the bottom would've been disconnected, which eliminates the possibility.
No, the fact that it isn't done often and requires specific effort from Tanjiro is very important, considering he had no reason to destroy more of the stone than needed.With one vertical slash he created a 180-degree attack, and sliced multiple hands flanking him.
Regardless of how often it is done, if it is established that Tanjiro is capable of cutting wider than the width of his sword, then I made my point.
No, they never appear at that point of the story even when the ghosts aren't there, so it's absolutely not a vision. As for the rest, sure that's a possibility, but it's only a possibility, nothing more.Narratively, he was using Breathing Techniques; this is undisputable. The elemental visuals are illusionary (though the kinetic force seems to correspond to their shape), so them not appearing can be chalked to Tanjiro having a spiritual vision throughout his training, a design choice to enhance the build-up of Sabito being defeated swiftly with one strike, or the elemental effects concept not being implemented in the first chapters of the story.
... That's just cutting people around him though, not making cuts wider than his actual blade is.With one vertical slash he created a 180-degree attack, and sliced multiple hands flanking him.
Regardless of how often it is done, if it is established that Tanjiro is capable of cutting wider than the width of his sword, then I made my point.
The 22 cm fissure being within the range of a human forearm is pretty accurate, I'd say. Can you elaborate on how this is an exaggeration?It's not fully flat, so it tilting a bit is perfectly realistic. You can keep disagreeing but that won't change it, but you really should stop exaggerating the amount by which it tilted.
And no since the force was applied to the top first, that part being what's pushed away is perfectly realistic since it's what took most of the energy.
Tanjiro was in a dream battle and guided with his clairvoyance; consciously calculating the minimum amount to slice a boulder is not possible. Him having expanded range, both in length and width, with his attack is plausible.No, the fact that it isn't done often and requires specific effort from Tanjiro is very important, considering he had no reason to destroy more of the stone than needed.
Cutting people around him with a vertical slash is AoE.... That's just cutting people around him though, not making cuts wider than his actual blade is.
Also why is a cut supposed to be turning anything the blade contacts into dust, now? The previous method was fine, the calculation was just implemented poorly.
There is a difference in tiers and scaling between the calcs, so it warrants discussion.Guys, just go with the 214.35 MPa (Or 214.35 J/cc, same thing) times area of the rock times thickness of the blade and stick with the 5.696 megajoule value.
Does that include me?Brother, your entire argument is based on a minor art mistake and you've got three calc members telling you you're wrong. Don't be so stubborn.
p... perhapsDoes that include me?
Because pulv. itself is based on compressive strength values and cutting clearly involves pressing in the cut area, except the sword is your super-thin hydraulic press. It's like cutting a rock with a hydraulic press blade and applying compression over a super thin area but fast. And also because there's not enough debris left in the aftermath minus that small bottom portion which really isn't that significant to the destroyed volume in the long run.Also why is a cut supposed to be turning anything the blade contacts into dust, now? The previous method was fine, the calculation was just implemented poorly.
Reminds me of how in a verse I support a bomb was stated to be capable of destroying a mega city which most would assume is like 6-CLike bro i bet half the verses in the wiki have major feats not even intended to be as powerful as we rate them, yet we don't rule it off as writing mistakes or art mistakes
laughs in NarutoLike bro i bet half the verses in the wiki have major feats not even intended to be as powerful as we rate them, yet we don't rule it off as writing mistakes or art mistakes
The base has a flat and wide enough foundation that parts of the boulder needs to phase into the ground in order to tilt from a microscopic cut in the middle, and the boulder is visibly not tilted, and the undestroyed section at the bottom shows that displacement didn't occur. The features appear to be too consistently drawn to be art mistakes; it is not like a single panel is getting nitpicked.Brother, your entire argument is based on a minor art mistake and you've got three calc members telling you you're wrong. Don't be so stubborn.