Demon slayer, possible Calc issue

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Ok so for Demon slayer the Calc we basically scale the entire verse around is this calculation
Which Yields 0.08 Tons of Tnt

Issue
Apparently after scooping through some cutting calculations this isn’t actually how cutting should be calculated it should be done like this
Or like first demonstrated in this wall of text between 2 Calc group members in this blogs comments

What would change if applied
Thickness of a Katana is about 0.64cm
60Mpa is used in the Calc so

(60 x 4.15265m^2 (area the original Calc found) x 0.0064m) = 1.59 Megajoules or 0.00038 Tons of Tnt (Wall Level
If applied this downgrades like 70% of the verse I think?

Bonus: how it effects the 100x boost.
0.038 Tons of Tnt (Small building level)

 

[Arceus0x]

Time to find a new feat maybe?

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Time to find a new feat maybe?

Perhaps
Because now I wouldn’t be surprised if formerly overlooked feats are now better than the Boulder slice.

 

[Arceus0x]

The father spider had some decent feats i think, there was lots of tree crushing and stuff

 

[Arceus0x]

If we use the kinetic energy of the katana moving at 4136 m/s it gives us
12829872 joules or 0.003 tons of tnt (topline wall level)

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

If we use the kinetic energy of the katana moving at 4136 m/s it gives us
12829872 joules or 0.003 tons of tnt (topline wall level)

Is that the speed for one of Zenitsu’s calcs?
Scaling off that should be a fine alternative as we already accept KE for him

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

The father spider had some decent feats i think, there was lots of tree crushing and stuff

I’ll probably scan through the series soon
Iirc the Red Light district arc had a house busting feat or something similar

 

[KLOL506]

If we use the kinetic energy of the katana moving at 4136 m/s it gives us
12829872 joules or 0.003 tons of tnt (topline wall level)

Nah, can't use KE like that anymore. It needs to be a particularly large object.

 

[KLOL506]

And yeah, cutting calcs basically go like this:

Area of the object being cut * thickness of the blade * Compressive strength AKA pulv. strength.

But seriously, I'm pretty sure there are better feats than rock cutting in KNY.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Nah, can't use KE like that anymore. It needs to be a particularly large object.

Well that’s a yikes

 

[KLOL506]

Well that’s a yikes

Like I said, I find it hard to believe that the rock thing is the best feat we have for Tanjiro's first rodeo. I'm sure we can find something better than that.

 

[Naito-desu]

Tanjiro tanking a tree branch smackdown here is pretty impressive

 

[Naito-desu]

Also don't we still have Zenitsu's feat by Risci?

 

[KLOL506]

Also don't we still have Zenitsu's feat by Risci?

KE from human-sized objects is a no-go. Speed is fine, but you need the object to be at least twice as heavy (I think?) for KE to be valid now if there are no explicit speed statements like Cap throwing a shield faster than an ICBM and so on..

The tree feat looks legit tho.

 

[Arceus0x]

technically the branch should be a few tons in weight

 

[Armorchompy]

There's nothing in our KE standards about size I think, a small object or a human's KE is fine to use as long as the way the feat happens feats our standards- and if it's a tackle, it should.

 

[KLOL506]

There's nothing in our KE standards about size I think, a small object or a human's KE is fine to use as long as the way the feat happens feats our standards- and if it's a tackle, it should.

tackles are fine, yes, it's just that running cross-country distances while princess carrying someone in your arms wouldn't be KE.

 

[Arceus0x]

last time my attempt to use lightning speed for KE to remake a KE feat with supersonic to lower end hypersonic speed was rejected due to the lightning speed not being in the same vid as the feat. I assume we would use at minimum the 0.003 tons feat.

 

[Armorchompy]

tackles are fine, yes, it's just that running cross-country distances while princess carrying someone in your arms wouldn't be KE.

That's probably true yeah. Still, nothing 'bout size.

last time my attempt to use lightning speed for KE to remake a KE feat with supersonic to lower end hypersonic speed was rejected due to the lightning speed not being in the same vid as the feat. I assume we would use at minimum the 0.003 tons feat.

yeah that would sound like calc stacking to me.

 

[Arceus0x]

i mean in my case the katana calc i proposed is Tanjirou using his katana in the fight against the swamp oni and the drum oni both of which have huge feats

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Tanjiro tanking a tree branch smackdown here is pretty impressive

Inb4 that tree feat is only like lower middle 9-B

Although being serious that helps
There was also Gyutaro’s blood tornado which characters can backscale off of if We can calculate it.

tackles are fine, yes, it's just that running cross-country distances while princess carrying someone in your arms wouldn't be KE.

I mean even in the case of Tackles
When Zenitsu does thunderclap flash he jumps with his entire body rather than just swinging his arms.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

The great sin in Kimetsu is destructive feats, probably nothing exceedse 9-B in the first arcs. But there is an alternative version of this calculation with wooden dragons, which the last time I tried to calculate gave an 8-B result.

I'll try to calculate again. It is useful for downscale.

EDIT: Kimetsu also has the demon's feat of merging with a train. In one scene the train jumps extremely high, with GPE the result is probably 8-C

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

8-B result

Yeah no, just 8-C. Much more consistent though

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Yeah no, just 8-C. Much more consistent though

Yay the verse is saved from being Nerfed to UTTER oblivion
Although still quite the nerf unless Enmu’s GPE yields good

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

From Small Building to Wall
From Large Building+ to Small Building+
From City Block to Building

Amazing, even the downgrade is consistent with each other

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Muzan has an 8-C Calc

 

[KingTempest]

The downgrades look fine, unfortunate tho -_-, but fine.

So what needs to be done here?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

A thread with a new scale and a recalc of Tanjiro's feat is needed

In my case, I cannot post a thread. My computer is broken.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

The downgrades look fine, unfortunate tho -_-, but fine.

So what needs to be done here?

In this specific thread I don’t think anything

Although Future revision thread with the recalculated Boulder slice as a blog along with the new scale will be needed.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

A thread with a new scale and a recalc of Tanjiro's feat is needed

In my case, I cannot post a thread. My computer is broken.

I can set up the revision thread
I do them all on my phone anyway.

 

[KingTempest]

I can set up the revision thread
I do them all on my phone anyway.

On your phone?
You're a menace

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

madman

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Converted the redo of the calculation in this thread into this Blog really fast

So getting this evaled would be nice
As it’s basically already approved

 

[Armorchompy]

bump. calculation was approved

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Yeah.
This thread is completely finished
I already went on to make the revision (Hehe wall level matchups incoming)

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Look on the bright side, now Velou has a good opponent

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Look on the bright side, now Velou has a good opponent

Another Shonen MC I’m making a profile for also will have a good opponent now

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Which shonen?

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Which shonen?

Mission: Yozakura Family
I’m building up pages for that verse

 

[Arceus0x]

KE feats are allowed apparently as long as the attack happens at that speed and we can prove that.
Example: Invincible (tv series) has a 7-A feat for slamming Allen the alien into the moon at 2% rel speed.

Technically tanjirou should have the speed of attacks in the fights as the feats themselves come directly from the fights. So in theory my end of 9-B could be used unless rn we have some way better feat and I'm just confused as always.