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Deltarune Chapter 2 discussion!

Let's not forget Mind Manip/Body Puppetry(?) for Queen given her use of wires in assimilating the Werewires and controlling Berdly.
 
It'd be a tad tedious to screenshot it all, but I don't think many people would mind if I just went ahead and posted it, so imma go do that. I guess any objections or additions can be discussed in the CRT thread.
 
GodlyCharmander said:
Queen herself is a computer.
She seems incredibly dumb for someone who has all the knowledge on the internet, though
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She could be considered as "smart" as a regular computer with how much information she has at her disposal but she is below average in terms of common sense. That can be a part of her Intelligence rating, I believe.
 
GodlyCharmander said:
Agreed on Danmaku, confused on Data Manipulation.


LMAO how did I not see that---
Nah, this ain't it. Either limited Acrobatics, or just possibly.
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Limited sounds fine. She uses a lot of data-based attacks using computer graphics and such in her fights, whether it be composing a data-based image of her own head or computer cursors to fire energy beams.

Also possibly Empathic Manipulation here? She influences the users to become angry and create drama with just a word.
 
Queen also seems to be using electricity in this attack. I think she also deserves Preparation for being able to make use of her technology and resources to create things like Giga Queen, her wires, floating chair, cages, etc.
 
ShockingPsychic said:
Beat the chapter

Plenty of explosions to calc, and the final boss is a huge kaiju mecha battle (that Kris' durability scales to) that would probably get to 8-B? Maybe?

We need pages for Noelle, Berdly, Roulxs, Lancer, and Queen
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I have a strong feeling that nearly everything the protagonists meet is something in "real world", so the profile would be greatly different from the initial one.
 
This reminds me. I've read that apparently, when you use a Dark Crystal (Rewards for beating the Bonus Bosses.), apparently only the 1st time, you get a little bit of flavour text, apparently about the world.
For example, the Dark Crystal for Chapter 2 shows the Computer Lab, which may imply the Dark Worlds aren't supposed to be "real"; The Crystals reflect/show what are real, not the illusions.
 
I don't know why I said stuff about the Genocide Route on the CRT, that's my bad. Let me post my comments here where they're better fit
 
Ayo, can we talk about the Genocide Route Noelle?
She strong as ****

She's quite literally the strongest playable character in the game, what the ****

I tried to do a Genocide, but y'know, it's not possible because "your choices don't matter" in Deltarune...

But someone else's choices....
Also, did Susie and Noelle have sex in her room, I-
I mean, that's what it's implied, right?

at 36:20 here
Susie spends a looong time in her room, then is all dismissive about what happened there. When Noelle said she had a nightmare, she states the "end was nice", and when Susie question it, she blushes.

It's kinda implied to be something... unusual, maybe Noelle asked her out, she was overconfident because of her power, or maybe she was so confident that they did... other things.
 
Imaginym said:
This reminds me. I've read that apparently, when you use a Dark Crystal (Rewards for beating the Bonus Bosses.), apparently only the 1st time, you get a little bit of flavour text, apparently about the world.
For example, the Dark Crystal for Chapter 2 shows the Computer Lab, which may imply the Dark Worlds aren't supposed to be "real"; The Crystals reflect/show what are real, not the illusions.
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I mean, Berdly straight up died for real though...
 
Imaginym said:
What? In my playthrough, he left the library/Librarby, alive, with Noelle.
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In Noelle's Genocide route, they mean. In the video, it shows that Noelle uses her strongest spell against Berdly and he just straight up dies.

I think we can say that her AP with magic is actually significantly stronger than Kris's, given that it was able to breach Spamton NEO's amped defenses, which they couldn't do, not to mention it just straight up one-shots Berdly.
 
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MaidRips said:
In Noelle's Genocide route, they mean. In the video, it shows that Noelle uses her strongest spell against Berdly and he just straight up dies.
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OH. I hadn't seen that yet. Maybe spoil that?
MaidRips said:
I think we can say that her AP with magic is actually significantly stronger than Kris's, given that it was able to breach Spamton NEO's amped defenses, which they couldn't do, not to mention it just straight up one-shots Berdly.
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MaidRips said:
Oh sorry, I thought that everyone saw it since it was linked.
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Sorry for any bother. Still, it is potentially a big reveal.
I'm a little distracted to watch the video, but that's my fault. Still, eager to get around to it.
 
I'm also surprised Kris doesn't have telepathy yet considering what they did with Susie in Chapter One. But right now I think that we can absolutely for sure confirm that this is Telepathy without a shadow of a doubt. As we can see here, Kris is able to hear Noelle's thoughts and talks to them about something she thought was only inside her head. But there's something peculiar going on, I think. Noelle remarks that the voice that she heard wasn't Kris's, leading me to believe that the Knight/Chara/whoever is possessing Kris is responsible for this ability although we can't say for sure.
 
MaidRips said:
I'm also surprised Kris doesn't have telepathy yet considering what they did with Susie in Chapter One. But right now I think that we can absolutely for sure confirm that this is Telepathy without a shadow of a doubt. As we can see here, Kris is able to hear Noelle's thoughts and talks to them about something she thought was only inside her head. But there's something peculiar going on, I think. Noelle remarks that the voice that she heard wasn't Kris's, leading me to believe that the Knight/Chara/whoever is possessing Kris is responsible for this ability although we can't say for sure.
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If this the Knight is not Chara now I'll be kinda disappointed. All leads up to this, the blade being a knife, the literal use of will and Determination to create these worlds. Toby ain't gonna pull the "Oh yeah, screw all these hints, here's a completely new character that happens to fit all these descriptions"
 
Also Social Influencing, I think is an ability that's long past overdue. Frisk has it for doing basically the same things, so I don't see why they shouldn't. And the Genocide route just adds more fuel to the flames given that they were able to manipulate Noelle into becoming a killer.
 
MaidRips said:
Also Social Influencing, I think is an ability that's long past overdue. Frisk has it for doing basically the same things, so I don't see why they shouldn't. And the Genocide route just adds more fuel to the flames given that they were able to manipulate Noelle into becoming a killer.
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I mean, literally, he can convince people who are WILLING TO KILL HIM to be on his side since Chapter 1, he needs to have Social Influencing
 
Regarding Deltarune attacks that normally hit the SOUL:

1. Damage the body, if they succeeding in damaging the SOUL?
2. Damage the body, even if they fail to damage the SOUL?
3. Can they damage the body of beings with no SOUL?

Asking because of an ongoing Versus Thread. Scans may help. Asking here because you folks probably know where to find the relevant scans/quotes, etc.
 
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