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A continuation from this thread.
So, new evidence popped up implying Jevil is stronger than Spamton, a Ch. 2 Character, thus, I believe we now have enough of a reasoning to upgrade end-game Chapter 1 Character to 9-A. I will be compiling all the evidence indicating to it.
Spamton directly states he will "surpass that clown around town" using the NEO form. Obviously the conclusion is that the clown is Jevil, but it's not a direct enough statement where we can decisively say it's him.
Still, if we entertain the possibility of the clown being Jevil, which is likely. The statement would imply Jevil is stronger than Base Spamton, who scales to Mid-Game Ch.2 Kris. I understand the skepticism, and you can argue that "surpass" doesn't necessarily mean in strength, but freedom, or other concept ofter talked about by Spamton. That's why this statement alone wasn't enough to prove Jevil scaled to Chapter 2 Characters.
However, given the new event $PAMTOM $WEEPSTAKES, an official event to commemorate Deltarune's 4th Anniversary hosted by Fangamers and Toby Fox, we were rewarded by a Q&A, retweeted by Toby. This new evidence proves that; the "Clown" was Jevil, and that Spamton fought him and lost (even by cheating).
First, he says "DON'T SHOW ME THIS FOOL IN CLOWN'S CLOTHING"
"HE ONLY LIKES GAMES, AND EVEN THOUGH I THEORETICALLY CHEATED, I NEVER WON, EVEN ONCE"
This proves the one he considered a Clown is Jevil. And he played Jevil's games, which, according to the game is "If you HP hits 0, you lose", aka a fight.
"Well, the game might not been that, Jevil is insane, it could be something else"
Fair. But not really the case.
Here, he advises about the enemies and elemental types in the game (Deltarune), a hidden feature. He then goes and say to "avoid Death/Scythe. NEVER AGAIN!!!", which is a reference to the fact Jevil uses Scythes, and Death is referencing the fact Spamton lost to him in a fight. The never again makes it painfully obviously, as Spamton is consistently traumatized by this.
This should provide enough evidence that:
It's notable that it takes 3 of the main characters to defeat Jevil, while it takes only Kris to defeat Spamton. Jevil also dominates the battle, causing a lot more damage than everyone else.
Scaling:
Thrash Machine ~ GIGA Queen >>> Queen ~ Spamton NEO ~ Delta Warriors Party (Chapter 2) >> End-Game Chapter 2 Kris ~ Berdly = 0.075 Tons of TNT
Jevil => K. Round ~ King ~ Delta Warriors Party (Chapter 1) >> Base Spamton ~ Mid-Game Chapter 2 Kris ~ Roulx Kaard > Noelle ~ Exhausted Berdly's durability = 0.006 Tons of TNT
King is also upgraded from this.
So, new evidence popped up implying Jevil is stronger than Spamton, a Ch. 2 Character, thus, I believe we now have enough of a reasoning to upgrade end-game Chapter 1 Character to 9-A. I will be compiling all the evidence indicating to it.
Spamton's own words
Spamton directly states he will "surpass that clown around town" using the NEO form. Obviously the conclusion is that the clown is Jevil, but it's not a direct enough statement where we can decisively say it's him.
Still, if we entertain the possibility of the clown being Jevil, which is likely. The statement would imply Jevil is stronger than Base Spamton, who scales to Mid-Game Ch.2 Kris. I understand the skepticism, and you can argue that "surpass" doesn't necessarily mean in strength, but freedom, or other concept ofter talked about by Spamton. That's why this statement alone wasn't enough to prove Jevil scaled to Chapter 2 Characters.
However, given the new event $PAMTOM $WEEPSTAKES, an official event to commemorate Deltarune's 4th Anniversary hosted by Fangamers and Toby Fox, we were rewarded by a Q&A, retweeted by Toby. This new evidence proves that; the "Clown" was Jevil, and that Spamton fought him and lost (even by cheating).
$PAMTOM $WEEPSTAKES Q&A
First, he says "DON'T SHOW ME THIS FOOL IN CLOWN'S CLOTHING"
"HE ONLY LIKES GAMES, AND EVEN THOUGH I THEORETICALLY CHEATED, I NEVER WON, EVEN ONCE"
This proves the one he considered a Clown is Jevil. And he played Jevil's games, which, according to the game is "If you HP hits 0, you lose", aka a fight.
"Well, the game might not been that, Jevil is insane, it could be something else"
Fair. But not really the case.
Here, he advises about the enemies and elemental types in the game (Deltarune), a hidden feature. He then goes and say to "avoid Death/Scythe. NEVER AGAIN!!!", which is a reference to the fact Jevil uses Scythes, and Death is referencing the fact Spamton lost to him in a fight. The never again makes it painfully obviously, as Spamton is consistently traumatized by this.
This should provide enough evidence that:
- Spamton was referring to Jevil when he said "Clown around town" in the game
- Spamton lost to Jevil in a game
- The game was the same one given to the Delta Warriors, a fight.
It's notable that it takes 3 of the main characters to defeat Jevil, while it takes only Kris to defeat Spamton. Jevil also dominates the battle, causing a lot more damage than everyone else.
Scaling:
Thrash Machine ~ GIGA Queen >>> Queen ~ Spamton NEO ~ Delta Warriors Party (Chapter 2) >> End-Game Chapter 2 Kris ~ Berdly = 0.075 Tons of TNT
Jevil => K. Round ~ King ~ Delta Warriors Party (Chapter 1) >> Base Spamton ~ Mid-Game Chapter 2 Kris ~ Roulx Kaard > Noelle ~ Exhausted Berdly's durability = 0.006 Tons of TNT
King is also upgraded from this.
CONCLUSIONS
- King, Jevil, K. Round and Roulx Kaard have their first key upgraded to 9-A. (0.006 Tons of TNT)
- These characters should be upgraded to Supersonic
