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Also depends on what that machine was made out of.KLOL, if the explosion vaporized the machine, would the energy that expanded afterwards be significantly reduced?
...then don't make comments like this. It's because the move is extremely above everything else Noelle can use as attacks to the point it's counted as instant-kill compared to the other ones.I played
Then dropped after one hour
But it's thermal energy tho. So it shouldnt be used anyway if theres no UES...then don't make comments like this. It's because the move is extremely above everything else Noelle can use as attacks to the point it's counted as instant-kill compared to the other ones.
So next time don't say this blatantly wrong stuff, thanks.
Magic in Deltarune covers also physicals and the stats use it as a damage meter, aka it'd be valid anyway.But it's thermal energy tho. So it shouldnt be used anyway if theres no UES
Its there any CRT about that?Magic in Deltarune covers also physicals and the stats use it as a damage meter, aka it'd be valid anyway.
My issue is also the fact that the explosion itself is lackluster, thus bringing me to the thought of energy being lost. The machine got vaporized but the explosion was barely bigger than it, while an actual explosion of that type, one that can actually vaporize the object containing it, would be far larger than it. This made me consider the fact that energy was lost vaporizing the duck and you only get hit with whatever is left over.Also depends on what that machine was made out of.
If it was made out of say, depleted uranium, maybe. But that isn't remotely anything like depleted uranium.
Then yeah, it's just a normal feat.Also depends on what that machine was made out of.
If it was made out of say, depleted uranium, maybe. But that isn't remotely anything like depleted uranium.
Area of Effect fallacy. Fiction doesn't have to respect the law of conservation of energy. If it generated that much energy and it has no real-life or in-universe reason to be depleted, you're arguing non-sense.My issue is also the fact that the explosion itself is lackluster, thus bringing me to the thought of energy being lost. The machine got vaporized but the explosion was barely bigger than it, while an actual explosion of that type, one that can actually vaporize the object containing it, would be far larger than it.
Not really as it's the only heat based calc, funnily enough. But Magic is used as an actual statistics alongside attack and defense, and, as the name suggests, the stat is about the effectiveness of the magic spells, and it's an actual thing unlike other purely cosmetic stats like cuteness (lmao). And yes, Magic is also linked to the SOUL, which is the essence of one's being in the verse and scales to physicals.Its there any CRT about that?
visually speaking the heart goes behind the machine which would make it the width of the machine away
Don't you mean half of the width?
It's a 2D pixel game, Arceus for the love of GOD.visually speaking the heart goes behind the machine which would make it the width of the machine away
so before you were defending the whole black box thing but the moment I talk about visuals "it is a 2d game". We either rely on what we see or we don't, and I see the soul go behind the machine.It's a 2D pixel game, Arceus for the love of GOD.
Gotta love the absolute false equivalency between the black box being an actual thing, which has a lot of support given how the machine is in the EXACT same plane as Kris before it moves into the black box, and the game being 2D and objects obviously being incapable of visually colliding.so before you were defending the whole black box thing but the moment I talk about visuals "it is a 2d game". We either rely on what we see or we don't, and I see the soul go behind the machine.
Interpretation is not your forte. Stop humiliating yourself.Yeah yeah sure like it went through the cage that Kris threw it in. Nah mate I ain't buying this BS.
Don't tell me what is my forte and what is not. I can interpret it however tf I want. I went with your logic of going by visuals and I saw it go behind the machine. Could he get hit with the machine's wing or just with it exploding? Absolutely, never said he was far behind it. I simply used visuals to describe what is visually going on. If we go by interpretation then I'll interpret this feat as LOK did, a gag and an outlier, and say it should be removed for that.Interpretation is not your forte. Stop humiliating yourself.
"The heart goes behind the machine" lmao piss off
And this take would be inaccurate as well, only my counterarguments would change to account for that.Don't tell me what is my forte and what is not. I can interpret it however tf I want. I went with your logic of going by visuals and I saw it go behind the machine. Could he get hit with the machine's wing or just with it exploding? Absolutely, never said he was far behind it. I simply used visuals to describe what is visually going on. If we go by interpretation then I'll interpret this feat as LOK did, a gag and an outlier, and say it should be removed for that.
My thoughts exactly.Proximity isn't really that relevant, if the main argument is "something was in the way of the blast and may have absorbed a portion of it", which i find reasonable. This isn't a bomb purposefully designed to blow things up, it's an object self-destructing.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree here as well.
Also yes, please calm down.
What do you think of what Armor said here?Also depends on what that machine was made out of.
If it was made out of say, depleted uranium, maybe. But that isn't remotely anything like depleted uranium.
The energy was powerful enough to vaporize the materials, it couldn't have absorbed anything at the end of the day - it was vaporized, there's no object left to absorb it.if the main argument is "something was in the way of the blast and may have absorbed a portion of it", which i find reasonable.
The energy that vaporized the material was spent vaporizing the materials and would not be directly transferred to someone standing behind them. How much more of that there was, you cannot really tell.The energy was powerful enough to vaporize the materials, it couldn't have absorbed anything at the end of the day - it was vaporized, there's no object left to absorb it.
Not in a way where you'd get to tank 100% of it.Energy and Matter can't be destroyed, so the energy used to vaporize the object still expanded.
That makes no sense. It's clearly the thing exploding, why would the blast start outside it? You're taking the graphics way too literally.Not to mention the explosion started outside of the duck.
Yeah but this is entirely speculative, we can't make an accurate calculation and we also have to take into account that the energy calculated was only depicting the vaporization when it could in fact be much higher and it simply had nothing else to vaporize.The energy that vaporized the material was spent vaporizing the materials and would not be directly transferred to someone standing behind them. How much more of that there was, you cannot really tell.
Not in a way where you'd get to tank 100% of it.
Yeah it could but if we're going by "could" you might as well say it was 8-A cause I mean, it could have beenYeah but this is entirely speculative, we can't make an accurate calculation and we also have to take into account that the energy calculated was only depicting the vaporization when it could in fact be much higher and it simply had nothing else to vaporize.
Orrrr we could leave it at the level it's currently scaled to. Without knowing the total energy of the explosion, we can’t definitively say what proportion was used to vaporize the machine. The explosion could indeed still have most of its energy if the total energy was significantly larger than the energy required for vaporization. And an explosion isn't the most effective in transfering energy, even then it was more than enough to vaporize it.Yeah it could but if we're going by "could" you might as well say it was 8-A cause I mean, it could have been
I guess you're right. Scaling to the full calculable yield without concrete evidence can lead to some misinterpretations. I was reading about Shielding Effects in explosions and that seemed about right.You are right that we don't know anything for sure, but that is not a reason to shrug and go "eh, let's just scale to the full calculable yield anyways". It's in fact the exact reason given for discarding the feat entirely.
Therefir should likely be informed of this as he is a staff supporter and maker of this calcAlright now that it has been settled, unless KLol and Psycho reply with any rebuttal I'll probably call some more thread mods and see if they agree and then apply the thread.
Ah, true. I'll contact him a bit later then, I was planning on finishing things up tomorrow cause of my broken sleep schedule.Therefir should likely be informed of this as he is a staff supporter and maker of this calc