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Death Battle Season Ten Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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BlackDarkness679 said:
Chapter 1 from the demo alone was enough to tell Wesker wasnt gonna do shit, if casuals still want that, i dont know what to tell them, let alone Death Battle crew
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What about:
There are fiction vs debaters saying Kazuya Mishima vs Albert Wesker is more fun than Liquid Snake vs Albert Wesker and Kazuya Mishima vs Iori Yagami?

Disclaimer: I prefer Liquid Snake vs Albert Wesker and Kazuya Mishima vs Iori Yagami every day if the week.
 
Jasonsith said:
What about:
There are fiction vs debaters saying Kazuya Mishima vs Albert Wesker is more fun than Liquid Snake vs Albert Wesker and Kazuya Mishima vs Iori Yagami?
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My honest reaction:
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Tipper17 said:
Boros back
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NotoriouSoda said:
Damn

I don’t know how to feel about that. On one hand seeing him back is incredibly cool and this is ONE so I do trust him when it comes to writing.

But on the other hand his arc was completely with his fight with Saitama.
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Accelerated_Evolution said:
If Boros scale to Saitama in the new arc then Boros VS Battle Beast will be a stomp
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Emirp sumitpo said:
I'm sorry WHAT
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BlackDarkness679 said:
Imagine when the manga brings him back, inb4 people will attempt tier 4 Boros
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This is like a Death Battle Curse happening without an actual Death Battle.
 
Dick Gumshoe VS Inspector Zenigata (Ace Attorney VS Lupin III)- Sam likes Lupin III (though he didn’t like it growing up), but doesn’t know much about Ace Attorney. Ben thinks it could be fun, and Chad says they seem like similar characters. Sam doubts that Ace Attorney characters have much in terms of feats, but Ben wouldn’t be surprised if they do. Ben suggests Lupin VS Detective Conan, which Chad and Sam like.

Gorr the God Butcher VS Merged Zamasu (Marvel VS Dragon Ball)- Sam thinks it makes sense. He’s seen a lot of Gorr requests lately, which surprises him because Gorr was only in the comics for one arc to his knowledge. Sam notes that Gorr’s arc is where a lot of Thor’s best feats come from. Chad says the MU could be “epic”, and Sam says it’s “kinda like ‘Evil Guy Thor VS Vegeta’”.

Jaime Lannister VS Askeladd (Game of Thrones VS Vinland Saga)- They’re not familiar with Vinland Saga. It’s pointed out that Jaime might be hard to analyze, since he doesn’t have many feats from before he lost his hand, but if they focus on the stuff from after he lost it, then he wouldn’t be getting analyzed at his peak. Chad argues in response that we see him fight a few times beforehand, and his reputation as an amazing fighter means he could get some good scaling.

Speed Racer VS Vert Wheeler (Speed Racer VS Hot Wheels Battle Force 5)- They’ve never heard of HWBF5. Sam says they did Death Race because they “want so badly to have this kind of shit”, so he's on board with the premise. Ben thinks Speed Racer would be super fun to have on DB.

Spike VS Revy (Cowboy Bebop VS Black Lagoon)- It gets glossed over because it’s been talked about a bunch. Sam reiterates that it’s planned as a Cast debate, and calls it a banger. Chad says “it’s gonna happen at some point”.

Jaden Yuki VS Ben Tennyson (Yu-Gi-Oh VS Ben 10)- Sam thinks it’s cool and fun. Chad says that the first Yu-Gi-Oh episode should be Ash VS Yugi. Sam responds that he’s not sure it should be Ash VS Yugi specifically, but he definitely thinks Yugi should appear before Jaden.

Pegasus Seiya VS Sailor Moon- Sam and Ben call it a classic anime MU. Chad really wants to use Usagi and thinks it’s a good MU.

Spider-Punk VS Chai (Marvel VS Hi-Fi Rush)- Neither Ben or Chad have played Hi-Fi Rush, but they both think it looks good. They don’t really express opinions on the MU.

Lord Drakkon VS Ohma Zi-O (Power Rangers VS Kamen Rider)- Sam calls it “the ultimate end-all of the Super Sentai style”. They all think it looks cool.

King VS Incineroar (Tekken VS Pokemon)- Ben thinks it’s funny. Chad really likes the MU, noting they’ve never done a proper wrestling episode. It's noted that King is just a man in a jaguar mask, but Ben and Erin point out that Tekken scaling should still put him on a similar level to Incineroar.

Richard Nixon VS Doctor Manhattan (Monument Mythos VS Watchmen)- Chad calls it “ridiculous”, and notes that the average person would probably be confused by the premise. Sam notes that it’s popular among the community, and Chad says Liam really likes it.

Nox VS Strange Supreme (Wakfu VS Marvel’s What If)- They don’t know the characters well enough to have an opinion.

Sarah Kerrigan VS Illidan Stormrage (StarCraft VS Warcraft)- Chad doesn’t know how powerful Kerrigan is, but assumes Illidan stomps. Sam agrees that Illidan wins, but says Kerrigan is pretty powerful, especially when taking game mechanics into account, so it might be decently close. Ben asks if Kerrigan has ever destroyed a planet, and Sam answers no, but the Zerg do consume (not necessarily destroy) planets. Sam thinks the MU would be cool, and says if anyone from StarCraft appears in DB, it should be Kerrigan.

Boros VS Battle Beast (One-Punch Man VS Invincible)- They’ve surprisingly never seen it before. They all think it’s a cool MU, and Sam likes One-Punch Man VS Invincible as a franchise pairing.

Evangelion Unit-01 VS Wing Gundam Zero- Chad wants to use Eva-01 a lot. The OP worded the MU as “Shinji Ikari VS Heero Yuy”, leading to jokes about the possibility of it just being a fight between the pilots (they all agree Heero would stomp in that case). Sam finds Evangelion somewhat weird to use due to the Biblical themes near the end. He also notes the height difference between the two, which Chad says is a recurring problem with robot MUs. Regardless, Sam says it’s a cool MU, which he also thinks could make a good DBX.

Scott Pilgrim VS Seven (Scott Pilgrim VS Scissor Seven)- They’ve never heard of Scissor Seven, but Erin Googles it and thinks it sounds interesting. Sam says they’ll look into it.

(Robotboy VS Jenny Wakeman and Emmet VS Jesse both get glossed over because they’ve been discussed before).

Harry Potter VS Percy Jackson- Chad says it’s been “requested a million times”. Erin has been enjoying the Percy Jackson Disney+ series. Sam says he and Liam both prefer Percy VS Zagreus (Ben also thinks that MU's fun).

Arceus VS Aslan (Pokemon VS The Chronicles of Narnia)- Chad loves it. Sam says it makes sense, and he "doesn’t like it and also likes it”. Chad thinks it’d be funny to analyze Aslan. Sam dislikes Arceus, finding their introduction to be “when Pokemon jumped the shark in a lot of ways”. Ben finds Aslan weird, because he's canonically the Judeo-Christian God, but “when he fights, he’s just a lion”.

(Fawful VS Spamton G. Spamton also gets glossed over because it was just talked about last episode).

Xemnas VS Pain (Kingdom Hearts VS Naruto)- Sam thinks it makes “a fair bit of sense”. He says it’s pretty cool (which Chad agrees with), and he never would have thought of Kingdom Hearts VS Naruto. Sam calls it underrated upon seeing that it only got 20 hearts.

Ash Ketchum VS Yugi Muto (Pokemon VS Yu-Gi-Oh)- “If it’s Pikachu VS Blue Eyes White Dragon, I don’t know how it goes”. Chad and Sam both say it’s fun and would be really cool.

Rin Okumura VS Moka Akashiya (Blue Exorcist VS Rosario + Vampire)- They’re not familiar with either series (though Ben has heard Blue Exorcist is really good). They think it sounds cool from the connections though.

Alucard VS D (Castlevania VS Vampire Hunter D)- It’s cool and they like it. They say that “D is very stupid”, and has a lot of insane feats that probably weren’t meant to be analyzed in a battlehoarding context.

Lucina VS Clairen (Fire Emblem VS Rivals of Aether)- They don’t know Clairen, but say it seems pretty cool from the connections. Sam says Lucina is the biggest request for a Fire Emblem character.

First matchup for the next Ballot Banter is Captain Marvelous VS Kamen Rider Decade (Super Sentai VS Kamen Rider).
 
Tipper17 said:
Spike VS Revy (Cowboy Bebop VS Black Lagoon)- It gets glossed over because it’s been talked about a bunch. Sam reiterates that it’s planned as a Cast debate, and calls it a banger. Chad says “it’s gonna happen at some point”.
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Good to know Revy gonna debut at one point
Tipper17 said:
King VS Incineroar (Tekken VS Pokemon)- Ben thinks it’s funny. Chad really likes the MU, noting they’ve never done a proper wrestling episode. It's noted that King is just a man in a jaguar mask, but Ben and Erin point out that Tekken scaling should still put him on a similar level to Incineroar.
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How powerful they believe Incineroar is though?
Tipper17 said:
Sarah Kerrigan VS Illidan Stormrage (StarCraft VS Warcraft)- Chad doesn’t know how powerful Kerrigan is, but assumes Illidan stomps. Sam agrees that Illidan wins, but says Kerrigan is pretty powerful, especially when taking game mechanics into account, so it might be decently close. Ben asks if Kerrigan has ever destroyed a planet, and Sam answers no, but the Zerg do consume (not necessarily destroy) planets. Sam thinks the MU would be cool, and says if anyone from StarCraft appears in DB, it should be Kerrigan.
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Aint Kerrigan cosmic level in power, as Queen of zergs?
Tipper17 said:
Boros VS Battle Beast (One-Punch Man VS Invincible)- They’ve surprisingly never seen it before. They all think it’s a cool MU, and Sam likes One-Punch Man VS Invincible as a franchise pairing.
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I assume Swan wasnt in the cast? Cuz he definitely did, the fact others didnt is crazy
 
Tipper17 said:
Evangelion Unit-01 VS Wing Gundam Zero- Chad wants to use Eva-01 a lot. The OP worded the MU as “Shinji Ikari VS Heero Yuy”, leading to jokes about the possibility of it just being a fight between the pilots (they all agree Heero would stomp in that case). Sam finds Evangelion somewhat weird to use due to the Biblical themes near the end. He also notes the height difference between the two, which Chad says is a recurring problem with robot MUs. Regardless, Sam says it’s a cool MU, which he also thinks could make a good DBX.
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Yeah, going by the original series, Eva 01 can range from either 40 meters to a whopping 200. But, the cast will probably use Rebuild stuff... which opens up a whole can of worms with the impacts
 
BlackDarkness679 said:
How powerful they believe Incineroar is though?
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I can't speak for where they actually scale Incineroar, but if I might offer a conservative estimate: Machamp in Machamp vs Goro was put at 130 Kilotons due to scaling to and being tough enough to endure Seismic Toss, so I have to assume Incineroar would be High 7-C in their eyes since you could reasonably argue that Incineroar, like most final evolution Pokemon, tend to be relative to each other in power so he could be scaled to Machamp.

But where does King scale to based off his feats and scaling in Tekken? Is it anything noteworthy or is he, like, a low and mid tier character in the Tekken power scaling circle?
 
BlackDarkness679 said:
King is a high tier in the verse, below top tiers, who is basically for Mishimas, Akuma, Azazel
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I'm not overtly familiar with Tekken's power hiearchy so do you mind explaining how strong high tiers tend to be in the series? Given the, from what I remember, Multi Continential for top tiers scaling they have then I presume King at least scales vastly beyond High 7-C
 
Peter_Quicksilver_Maximoff said:
Question for my Yu Gi Oh scalers, where do the cap at in ther series?
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Very interpretation heavy, and each series has separate scales unless you let them cross scale. Duel Monsters and GX are anywhere from 2C to 5D, 5Ds can probably scale to the previous shows. Zexal is 5D on its own and maybe higher with Duel Monsters Cosmology taken into account. I believe Arc V is multi or multi+ without scaling, and I don't know anything about Vrains.

I've also heard that the Duel Links game confirms that Manga Duel Monsters and Anime Duel Monsters both exist as parallel timelines or universes or some weird shit.

There's also the "GX's 12 dimensions are actually spacial dimensions" argument, but I think Yugioh caps at 1C. Then again, card lore is also canon and i don't know anything about the lore of the monsters themselves.
 
Tipper17 said:
Speed Racer VS Vert Wheeler (Speed Racer VS Hot Wheels Battle Force 5)- They’ve never heard of HWBF5. Sam says they did Death Race because they “want so badly to have this kind of shit”, so he's on board with the premise. Ben thinks Speed Racer would be super fun to have on DB
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Omg, this would so epic, hope that Vert wins
 
Tipper17 said:
Dick Gumshoe VS Inspector Zenigata (Ace Attorney VS Lupin III)- Sam likes Lupin III (though he didn’t like it growing up), but doesn’t know much about Ace Attorney. Ben thinks it could be fun, and Chad says they seem like similar characters. Sam doubts that Ace Attorney characters have much in terms of feats, but Ben wouldn’t be surprised if they do. Ben suggests Lupin VS Detective Conan, which Chad and Sam like.
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I misread that as Inspector Zenigata vs Inspector Gadget which now that I think of it could be a fun match.
Tipper17 said:
Speed Racer VS Vert Wheeler (Speed Racer VS Hot Wheels Battle Force 5)- They’ve never heard of HWBF5. Sam says they did Death Race because they “want so badly to have this kind of shit”, so he's on board with the premise. Ben thinks Speed Racer would be super fun to have on DB.
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If they were going to do a race match I'd personally prefer them use a wacky race character but that's just me.
Tipper17 said:
Scott Pilgrim VS Seven (Scott Pilgrim VS Scissor Seven)- They’ve never heard of Scissor Seven, but Erin Googles it and thinks it sounds interesting. Sam says they’ll look into it.
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Scissor Seven is a great series so It could be really fun, honestly a match with Wu Liuqi would be fun (I'm not translating his name, that's just weird)
Tipper17 said:
Sam says he and Liam both prefer Percy VS Zagreus (Ben also thinks that MU's fun).
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L take, holy shit L take.
Tipper17 said:
Arceus VS Aslan (Pokemon VS The Chronicles of Narnia)- Chad loves it. Sam says it makes sense, and he "doesn’t like it and also likes it”. Chad thinks it’d be funny to analyze Aslan. Sam dislikes Arceus, finding their introduction to be “when Pokemon jumped the shark in a lot of ways”. Ben finds Aslan weird, because he's canonically the Judeo-Christian God, but “when he fights, he’s just a lion”.
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Actually he's supposed to be the Narnia version of Jesus... though I guess due to the trinity and all they are technically the same thing
 
From last time, wild Pokemons had Kilotons feat via Seismic Toss & Tekken had Gigatons via fodder Jack robots.

Its been a while so these might be outdated, esp. if they give Pokes mountain lvl feats, indeed making them close.
 
Ash Ketchum VS Yugi Muto (Pokemon VS Yu-Gi-Oh)- “If it’s Pikachu VS Blue Eyes White Dragon, I don’t know how it goes”. Chad and Sam both say it’s fun and would be really cool.
They brought up blue eyes........
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They are bringing up Blue Eyes White Dragon... in a Ash Ketchum vs Yugi Muto matchup... Should they talk about Dark Magician, Dark Magical Girl, Slifer the Sky Dragon, the hordes of Kuriboh race which did a lot of weird hax, and Exodia The Forbidden One aka The One who wins any opponent by existing?

I do not feel so good about Ash Ketchum vs Yugi Muto.
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
I'm not overtly familiar with Tekken's power hiearchy so do you mind explaining how strong high tiers tend to be in the series? Given the, from what I remember, Multi Continential for top tiers scaling they have then I presume King at least scales vastly beyond High 7-C
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If you are to properly scale all things considered, multi continental to small planet level for a High tier in Tekken

Top tiers which i pointed who they are would be at this point Planet level, God tiers x10 the previously mentioned power
 
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Not even Death Battle wank on Street Fighter saves them anymore from fat Ls at this point


Devil Jin ending has him literally laser the Earth, scorching it up

Let alone Kazuya and Jin made a huge shockwave of their fist clashing, wider then Earth, while in space


And reminder, the series had for almost 2 decades lore for Multi Continental and Planet level statements existing, Tekken 8 just solidifies any downplay and doubt on that now

You cant make this shit up lol
 
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