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Anyways, when do you guys expect GokuMan 4 to drop?
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Death Battle Season Ten Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Anyways, when do you guys expect GokuMan 4 to drop?
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We don't need Goku vs Superman 4
Anyways, when do you guys expect GokuMan 4 to drop?
koopa3144
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Yeah iirc.
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It’s kinda funny how Death Battle has spent 2 videos trying to get Dragon Ball fans and DC fans to get along but we just hate each other more than ever now
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So Omni-Man vs Bardock.
JJ here does have big speed advantage, since he just travels across planets by himself. However it is just travel speed. And JJ unfortunately doesnt have much other abilities to hit Goku Sr. with. So if Goku Sr. has big enough AP, I can feel like AP beats speed here. Goku Sr.'s
Hell, this actually seems like a rare opportunity to include Oozaru in DB. Thatd be neat. I do recall that they said they would use SSJ Bardock, maybe not Heroes stuff unless they blackbox Invincible crossovers.
But what are the exact gaps? Gaps in speed & gaps in AP? I feel like they could vary a lot, someone even mention Toei filler here to help with speed.
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Dragon Ball HATES using Zenkais tbh. Probably because it would make the Saiyans win all their matches, but y'know, it's not Dragon Ball's fault for giving characters Reactive Evolution.
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i don't see that around here or any where so idk what ya talking about
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Yeah its 4Chan where thats at :V
...I mean I guess there is slight feel of condescending-ness in some places because they've made a lot of people buy Outer comics.
...I mean I guess there is slight feel of condescending-ness in some places because they've made a lot of people buy Outer comics.
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I see a lot of hate messages like the one PonePoster posted all the time, whenever someone debunks DC scaling or debates Dragon Ball.
koopa3144
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Pretty sure its stated that Saiyans stop getting Zenkais after a while iirc. Also, Zenkais aren't that good mid-battle cause the boost comes after they get healed.
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Hasnt DBS specifically made it so that they kind of just grow in strength during battle as well.
Its all meaningless multipliers because they could never get to show how strong they are tho lol
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That was stated once in the noncanon manga, but then later disproven multiple times.
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It's not? I thought that was the correct term.
Dust_Collector
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Zenkai Boost is a fan made term, I don't think the Saiyans ability to power up after recovering from near death was ever actually given an offical name.
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I'm pretty you could say, Omni Man can react at that speed himself because if he didn't, he would be crashing into asteroids, meteors, and planets left and right also I think it said somewhere that Allen's flight, reaction, etc speed is the same and Nolan has fought him many times.
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Well DBZ Wiki changed it. Its literally "Saiyan Power" now.
Tho apparently Zenkai is the name in the French dub.
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I thought both were official.
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Couldn't have been lazier if they tried.
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Yes. Saiyan Power is what causes the S-Cells in a Saiyan to skyrocket and help to achieve SSJ1-6
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Dont worry, it has alt names you can use. They are:
"Saiyans are a warrior race!"
"That was a handy miscalculation"
"This pain will make me stronger!"
:V
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What?
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I would like to point out that Bardock got oneshot by Dodoria, did NOT heal, and later on fought Dodoria much better off above Planet Vegeta.
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Dust_Collector
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I'm 90% sure he did not fight Dodoria a second time, pretty sure he just stayed with Zarbon in the ship while Frieza went out and destroyed Bardock and Planet Vegeta
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Unless I'm rarted and this is Kakarot only, Bardock fought Dodoria again just before Frasier came out in his chair.
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Just checked and yeah that's only in DBZ Kakarot, in the original TV special only Frieza comes out to meet (and kill) Bardock
koopa3144
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Yeah I'm pretty sure thats Kakarot only. Unless I'm also forgetting something, in both Toei and the broly move he doesn't fight Dodoria.
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Darn. Kakarot IS supposed to be a Z timeline, so I wonder if they'll include that in the episode.
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toei version Dodoria nearly killed him after wiping out the goons that killed his squad but yeah
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Dude, is the only thing that you do here is being sensitive over harmless jokes?
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Metal has been Eggman’s puppet for virtually the entire Sonic series. He only rebelled against Eggman in one game.
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Omni-Man’s only win con outside of Mean Supreme scaling is using his superior speed and stamina to outlast Bardock until his Ki energy is exhausted then murking him when he’s weakened
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Ultraguy's old Eggman blog actually had him get Chaos Emeralds, Master Emerald & Metal Overlord vs Wily.
I never gave Eggman those when I discussed BowserEggman, but is there a chance DB might give those for some reason?
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I don’t see why he shouldn’t get those. Sonic characters are always given the Emeralds, and Metal is his own creation.
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Omni-Man vs Bardock being determined solely by “Does Nolan scale to Image Comics version of Superman?” is kinda funny ngl
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Personally I thought Eggman relatively didnt have full set of Emeroods or Master Emerood that often to warrant it, but it does seem plausible given what DB usually gives. Metal Overlord then also was a transformation that wasnt easily available, but I guess its not implausible either?
Depending on timing it started production, it does mean Bowser would have to deal with Super Eggman & Metal Overlord combo then. Huh.
I did want to recheck Bowser's time stop resist, for some reason the source cites SMRPG, but it doesnt look like it had time time related status effect? So Bowser might be vulnerable to time manipulation too.
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DB generally shuns crossover scaling, so I'm not sure he gets that particular one
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Well Scoob and Courage got it. How canon is that Image crossover?
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