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NGL I keep forgetting they have Avengers anymore since you legally need to pay for a streaming service to even know half the shit going on.
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Death Battle Season Ten Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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All of the non-3 houses pages: are we a joke to you?
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This is something that honestly irritates me to see. When I look at certain MCU projects like Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 3 or Werewolf by Night being critically and financially successful even in spite of the MCU bloat we've have been going through since, in my opinion, No Way Home, it tells me that Disney and Marvel can still make the MCU good if they actually put in effort and passion into their media.
Like I can tolerate things like adding in obscure heroes and all that shit if these movies were written well, had memorable and interesting characters, compelling plots, and just felt like something which was made with genuine love as opposed to making a quick buck. But they're not made with passion or with the intent to tell a story, instead it's been a combination of retreading on expanding the universe and having overarching villains like the Infinity Saga without the former's patience and effort it put in to get to that point in the first place.
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Well, having it be someone who fights gorillas would be too obvious, so... what about known for "packing heat", as they say? As in, weapons? This might be a side-effect of the MCU talk, but my first thought was "Punisher MU".
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I'm probably in the minority when I said that I enjoyed Love n' Thunder and MoM. Hell, I even enjoyed Quantumania. But I will say it's understandable that these movies get the hate they get.
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Actually this does make me want to ask a question: To anyone who stopped, or has recently decided to stop, watching the MCU, what was the movie or show which made you say "Yeah I'm done with the MCU, this shit sucks now"?
To me, that title firmly goes to Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, not only the worst MCU movie I've ever seen but also one of the worst movies of all time...not even kidding, it's unironic trash. It's genuinely hard for me to properly word how much I HATE this movie with every fiber being, but one way I can describe my feelings is that it feels like a movie where the only reason why everything happens and why there's any conflict to begin with is because everyone's a dumbass. And the scene which reinforces that view point to me is one where Strange, that Chavez chick, and some other chick are running away from Wanda and they imagine to separate from her after a steel door closes right in front of her. Now you would think that they would use that chance to get away from Wanda before she catches up to them, but no they stand for a few seconds just so the movie can jump scare us when Wanda suddenly appears right in front of the camera.
So overall, even if it did have some admittedly cool horror moments thanks to Sam Raimi, Multiverse of Madness was what killed my love for the MCU and I will always consider it as being one of the reasons why it's been on a steady decay since No Way Home.
To me, that title firmly goes to Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, not only the worst MCU movie I've ever seen but also one of the worst movies of all time...not even kidding, it's unironic trash. It's genuinely hard for me to properly word how much I HATE this movie with every fiber being, but one way I can describe my feelings is that it feels like a movie where the only reason why everything happens and why there's any conflict to begin with is because everyone's a dumbass. And the scene which reinforces that view point to me is one where Strange, that Chavez chick, and some other chick are running away from Wanda and they imagine to separate from her after a steel door closes right in front of her. Now you would think that they would use that chance to get away from Wanda before she catches up to them, but no they stand for a few seconds just so the movie can jump scare us when Wanda suddenly appears right in front of the camera.
So overall, even if it did have some admittedly cool horror moments thanks to Sam Raimi, Multiverse of Madness was what killed my love for the MCU and I will always consider it as being one of the reasons why it's been on a steady decay since No Way Home.
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I left after endgame
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I stopped after MoM and No Way Home, though I still watch What If.
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Hmm, that's fair honestly. There have been gems since then, make no mistake, but you're not really missing out on anything that's necessary to watch so you don't have to stress too much.
I actually did see snippets of Season 1 of What If and I thought it looked pretty good, but I've heard pretty polarizing opinions on Season 2 which range from being seen as good to being complete dog shit. If you would mind me asking for your opinion, what is your opinion on Season 2 of What If?
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It was a combination of tv shows and movies that killed it for me. Phase 4 has done irreversible damage to the universe and characters. Wanda vision she brainwash and tortured entire town and got away with it. Falcon and the winter soldier has one of the worst plot I’ve ever seen with a tv show and assassinates multiple different characters. Then the movies came out and damaged not only the characters again but destroyed the universe
But like you I dropped it at MoM. 1/10 movie dogshit writing
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I bought to much fan gear to leave the MCU, but man, am I disappointed 
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My favorite episode(s) of S2 would have to be the one with the 1980s Avengers and if Iron Man never made it back to Earth.
My least favorite would have to be the Native American episode.
The season finale definitely felt Mary Sue-ish, but the conclusion somewhat makes it better I guess, at least in my opinion.
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He probably means woke and left-leaning, not anti-capitalist. And no one's watching it, lol, their views have dropped massively due to releasing slop after slop.
A random Twitterite said it's a leopard since leopards are natural predators of gorillas, but I don't know any popular matchups with leopards.
Same
Uhhh, Falcon, Hulk, Thor, Captain Marvel andddddd yeah I can't name anyone else. Did the Avengers disband or something? What happened to them after Endgame?? I haven't heard new things about them, only that their members are acting more separate than before.
If something's bad is copy-pasted from the comics, then it's likely that those comics just suck.
Hulk is a lot weaker and lamer than before. He has less cool moments and isn't as unstoppable and cool as he used to be.
Captain Marvel is infamous, not famous. Even the girls who would want a super strong Mary Sue-esque girlboss superheroine prefer Wanda to Captain Marvel instead. (Not calling Wanda a Mary Sue mind you, only Captain Marvel) Very likely because Wanda has a personality and isn't lame like Danvers. I forgot about the Guardians, they're still solid. Hulk and Thor are lame now, though.
That's what im sayiiiiiiing. Capeslop
My siblings dragged me to watch Multiverse of Madness and Spider-man No way home. I liked those movies. Though after that I didn't watch anything else. I only heard bad things about the next movies. Something something "The wokes and the wokes and the inclusion and the propaganda and the movies being bad bad buzz word buzz word don't watch this crap" so I didn't watch them. The only one I have considered watching is Guardians of the Galaxy 3 since those movies always tend to be good. I am remembering how much I hate the concept of that She-Hulk series.
Speaking of my siblings, my brother might be a psychopath. He watched all the movies and series in the MCU 4 times. I can't fanthom the idea of watching a series or movie I watched multiple times, let alone slop like the MCU.
NGL I am considering watching What if solely because of Infinity Ultron and the powerscalers hyping him up.
I watched the Phase 1 movies when I was a fetus, so I won't remember the details really well.
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It's obvious the Capeshit fatigue has reached its peak and outside big name Capeshit characters the rest don't have that pull to easily draw big Numbers as before during its peak
Not to say there's isn't some good mu left to do with Capeshit but Marvel vs DC shouldn't be the main driving point for this season and beyond
Not to say there's isn't some good mu left to do with Capeshit but Marvel vs DC shouldn't be the main driving point for this season and beyond
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Each person gets one fighter (There is also a no female fighter rule cause Record of Ragnarok had no female fighters for some reason, but most people seem to ignoring it, so honestly, yeah you guys can pick female historical figures). So which one do you want?
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That’d be goated
But what does saxton have? I know he has Doom Fist and Armstrong
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Richard Lionheart
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If I could've picked two, just so you know, I would have nominated Sakamoto Ryoma for Japan
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I know, and it's a weird virtue-signal people use to describe companies trying to not alienate literally anyone because alienating a single person means one less person's worth of money.
I genuinely don't remember anything they copied from a comic that wasn't just made worse.
I feel like the "ooh, he angry >:[" thing was overplayed, and the alienation of the Hulk never came up enough after Hulk's movie. Also no Joe Fixit smh.
Honestly, I much prefer in the comics where she's just the more popular 2nd Captain Marvel, but was directly influenced by the first. Also the comics having literally everyone be a magnum heavy hitter kinda reduces the crazy power gaps.
Anyone saying "something something woke woke" is just mad about some shit, if there's some good critique, I'll... still see it, I just won't pay(FOR LEGAL REASONS, I JUST MEAN I GET FREE TICKETS BECAUSE OF WHERE I WORK)
I had this whole thing going where I was gonna do a fantasy football thing where me and my buddy threw down bets on individual characters, and I gave up because the idea of watching all those movies while people got mad whenever I monologued was crazy.
Infinity Ultron is kinda ass.
They're also shit.
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So are you blaming all of this to Sam Raimi?
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Luke vs. Saber blog is out
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He blaming the writer who wrote the movie Sam Raimi only directed it.
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Oh nvm then lel
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I blame the writer who wrote Sam Raimi
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Finally, Luber.
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Yea those are the only two I know of
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So it's really close when it comes to dimensional tiering shit huh
Also
Vergil vs Galacta Knight?
Todo vs Rengoku?
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If I had to give my thoughts on phase 4 and 5 MCU films, it'd go like this
Black Widow: Pretty good film, and while it is a bit disappointing that they changed Taskmaster from the original source, I thought the actor did an alright job for the role, and it was nice to see Natasha get her own film. Too bad it only came after Endgame and FFH. Really odd choice there....
Shang-Chi: Really cool film, I'll even say it was great. Loved the characters in it and the action was quite fun to watch. It was funny to see the fake mandarin back, and I liked Xu as the villain
No Way Home: Yeah I just love this film. I know it's basically the start of the whole muktiverse shit in the movies, but hey, I liked how it was done here. Still kept it grounded, and each of the past villains bounced off each other wonderfully. It was great to see Tobey and Andrew again, nice to see where their Peter's are now and how Andrew got his redemption as a Spider-Man. I just enjoy this film a lot.
Dr. Strange MoM: It's got its flaws, I will admit that. But the visuals go crazy, and I like the dialog between Strange and Chavez. Yeah it was disappointing to see the Illuminati just get killed off to hype up Wanda's increasing power, but oh well. I will say that I enjoyed it more than the first movie.
Thor Love and Thunder: Yeah, gotta admit that this was kinda mediocre, but hey I still enjoyed it. Yeah the bad cgi was still there but it was only for that kid's floating head and it still got a laugh out of me. While there are plenty of other scenes that don't get a reaction out of me, and the meeting with Zeus felt pointless since the thunderbolt never actually did anything from what I remember, but the moon scene went absolutely hard and the Guns n' Roses songs itch my brain. Though I will say, I think it was unfair for Taika to get bashed like he had never made a good film before.
Black Panther WF: Oh, I find this a great film. I like the themes of overcoming loss and revenge, and rejecting it to be better. Shuri was good in the protagonist roll, and seeing Killmonger in the spirit world stuff was a big surprise. The ending had me feeling things, not going to lie.
Quantumania: This is in a similar boat as Love and Thunder, though the cgi was noticeably lacking in quality, but I think the visuals for the environment held it up. Again, not that many scenes sparked a reaction from me, but Scott pulling up as Giant-Man had thrilled, and the fight against Kang (screw you Majors) had me on the edge of my seat at the end.
GotG 3: The best MCU film. Gunn is a genius, and this is another addition to his great roster of films. The Guardians interactions between themselves ranged from funny to emotional, Peter and Gamora reconciling despite not getting back together was bittersweet and quite real. The film made me sob a few times, from Rocket's condition and backstory, to the ending with "The Dog Days are Over" playing and Quill finally meeting his pops. ****, that hit hard for me. This is honestly the MCU at its peak, and I'm glad it continued after Endgame so that this film could see the light of day.
Black Widow: Pretty good film, and while it is a bit disappointing that they changed Taskmaster from the original source, I thought the actor did an alright job for the role, and it was nice to see Natasha get her own film. Too bad it only came after Endgame and FFH. Really odd choice there....
Shang-Chi: Really cool film, I'll even say it was great. Loved the characters in it and the action was quite fun to watch. It was funny to see the fake mandarin back, and I liked Xu as the villain
No Way Home: Yeah I just love this film. I know it's basically the start of the whole muktiverse shit in the movies, but hey, I liked how it was done here. Still kept it grounded, and each of the past villains bounced off each other wonderfully. It was great to see Tobey and Andrew again, nice to see where their Peter's are now and how Andrew got his redemption as a Spider-Man. I just enjoy this film a lot.
Dr. Strange MoM: It's got its flaws, I will admit that. But the visuals go crazy, and I like the dialog between Strange and Chavez. Yeah it was disappointing to see the Illuminati just get killed off to hype up Wanda's increasing power, but oh well. I will say that I enjoyed it more than the first movie.
Thor Love and Thunder: Yeah, gotta admit that this was kinda mediocre, but hey I still enjoyed it. Yeah the bad cgi was still there but it was only for that kid's floating head and it still got a laugh out of me. While there are plenty of other scenes that don't get a reaction out of me, and the meeting with Zeus felt pointless since the thunderbolt never actually did anything from what I remember, but the moon scene went absolutely hard and the Guns n' Roses songs itch my brain. Though I will say, I think it was unfair for Taika to get bashed like he had never made a good film before.
Black Panther WF: Oh, I find this a great film. I like the themes of overcoming loss and revenge, and rejecting it to be better. Shuri was good in the protagonist roll, and seeing Killmonger in the spirit world stuff was a big surprise. The ending had me feeling things, not going to lie.
Quantumania: This is in a similar boat as Love and Thunder, though the cgi was noticeably lacking in quality, but I think the visuals for the environment held it up. Again, not that many scenes sparked a reaction from me, but Scott pulling up as Giant-Man had thrilled, and the fight against Kang (screw you Majors) had me on the edge of my seat at the end.
GotG 3: The best MCU film. Gunn is a genius, and this is another addition to his great roster of films. The Guardians interactions between themselves ranged from funny to emotional, Peter and Gamora reconciling despite not getting back together was bittersweet and quite real. The film made me sob a few times, from Rocket's condition and backstory, to the ending with "The Dog Days are Over" playing and Quill finally meeting his pops. ****, that hit hard for me. This is honestly the MCU at its peak, and I'm glad it continued after Endgame so that this film could see the light of day.
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Do I have to debate for a character? I'll have you know I don't really have the intelligence to debate and really crap at it.
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Not really since Record of Ragnarok fights are based on plot
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African Deity: Ogun (Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff)
Chinese Deity: Sun Wukong (Mariogoods)
Fighter from America: George Washington (AnAverageUsername)
Fighter from Italy: Federico da Montefeltro (Stefano4444)
Fighter from France: Roland (Jianghshi1)
Fighter from Africa: Yasuke (ZeNoviceArtist)
Fighter from England: Richard the Lionheart (Ejthe24th)
Kind of funny to think about how Richard I was the king of England but was originally French. Born in England but lived most his life in Normandy
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Oh, is someone writing these fights out?
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Nah, I could probably but I don't have time for that. I just want to see what roster we can make and then vote on who fights who as a community
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Damn, if only there was someone willing to do that(I'll absolutely do that if you want.)
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The more I think about it, the more I believe I should've picked Themis for the Greek deity. Damn.
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