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Death Battle Season Ten Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

WeeklyBattles said:
Something something CU can come back from oetrification something something Chameleon
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Its not the same thing though, is it? A petrified Chosen Undead is still the Chosen Undead possessing the Undead Curse, just petrified, so he can resurrect. The Wabbajack can turn CU into a sweetroll, which is not the CU anymore and definitely doesn't have the Undead Curse or the ability to resurrect.
 
Wiz and Broomstick started arguing over the Dragonborn's choice between Stormcloaks and Imperials (and to a lesser extent their race). Could this be? Are they actually going to consider Prisoner Metaphysics?

The Dragonborn teaser was really good, I'll say. Nice combination of memes, lore analysis, the Aetherius shot feat and covers the main useful Daedric artefacts.
 
TacticalNuke002 said:
Its not the same thing though, is it? A petrified Chosen Undead is still the Chosen Undead possessing the Undead Curse, just petrified, so he can resurrect. The Wabbajack can turn CU into a sweetroll, which is not the CU anymore and definitely doesn't have the Undead Curse or the ability to resurrect.
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It turns them into a stone statue, and seath's crystallization does the same thing by turning you into a pile of crystals. Both of which are no longer the CU
 
WeeklyBattles said:
It turns them into a stone statue, and seath's crystallization does the same thing by turning you into a pile of crystals. Both of which are no longer the CU
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No? Its just a status effect that can be lifted by an appropriate item like the Fragrant Branch of Yore. I haven't played much DS1 but in DS2, there are several NPCs and enemies you can restore this way.
 
OverlordDonnelly said:
Wdym they gave Alucard a speed feat that was basically calc stacking just to make the speed gap less embarrassing, didn't they?
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Yee but they still downplayed alucards immortality and regen... And didn't they wank dio? In terms of speed as well?

When I said they downplayed Alucard for dio, I'm not talking the statistics, I'm talking about how the fight played out
 
To be fair (referring to the chosen undead and transmutation stuff), while you absolutely are still the chosen undead just petrified from the curse and petrified status effect, the camouflage spell specifically states it turns you into objects and you can still move, act, and immediately turn back to normal (in dark souls 1 it hints it’s an illusion but 3 just up and says you turn into the object).
 
Petrification is Curse in DS1 so it's still a status effect but with a turn to stone death animation. Disguising as inanimate objects also doesn't count, I believe since that's the Chosen Undead voluntarily transforming themselves. It's also likely that it's just another illusion spell (like Gwynevere) and not actual self-transmutation.
 
It specifically says “turn into”, it doesn’t say disguise or hide, or any other phrase that would make sense for an illusion.

I get what you are trying to say, being turned into a chicken is a bit different than your own body becoming a rock (since that chicken could be a different thing all together), but I don’t think that’s necessarily how it works.
 
Also, if we are talking about out of death battle, the chosen undead still has multiple ways to lose. Bend will scales to the population of an island versus the chosen undead scaling to rapport which controls maybe a dozen people (you could argue higher because it can control leech men made out of a crap ton of leeches). The Dovahkiin can easily just make him his servant (Miraak’s mind control was permanent and the Dovahkiin should scale lore wise). Or the Dovahkiin could delete him with Mehrunes Razor (it’s listed on one of the profiles, it would delete you in a way that requires high godly to survive (information erasure (as in like universal information that defines you as a thing), is high godly right?). So arguing petrification is kinda pointless.
 
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I almost want CU win cause getting uproar from VS community feels rare for DB nowadays and Im curious howd reactions to that would be. Last season mostly had just ASilver whining lol
 
I want Dovah to win because I really don't want them to downplay the character and go through 10 stages of mental gymnastics for Lswan to wank CU, despite the superiority of the Dark Souls games in general.
 
You guys think if they do Kira Vs Adachi they’d include Stray Cat in Kira’s arsenal? It might count as outside help but it was a pretty unique and creative way for him to use his ability.
 
ZeNoviceArtist said:
What did we get from the fireside chat?
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That Paul was mentioned in the Youtube chat. Not sure if this gets talked by the hosts.

The hosts did mention some Marvel and DC characters, and lamented on how some recent MCU or Sony Marvel movies suck/underperform.

They also get pretentiously surprised by how many old Marvel and DC movie and TV shows are.
 
RiloKileyFan said:
Colex is in the storyboarding process atm and the storyboard artist is a huge fan of both series
Billcord is cray cray and not the only crazy ep this season
One episode will have "special" animation and if they gave a hint, people would know what the MU is
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Good that means folks can stop tinfoil over those episodes happening anytime soon

Ballot Banter #23 Notes
CHAMPIONS
This one features Sam, Liam, John, and DJ.

John Constantine VS Raidou Kuzunoha: Liam immediately says he wants to do it as an episode. He thinks Constantine is a cool character, and that an SMT character would be the best choice for a close fight. John suggests Constantine VS Merlin from Fate. Sam says the matchup makes sense. Discussion devolves into being about Japanese media using Nazi aesthetics. Ultimately, they all like/want the matchup.

Conker VS Postal Dude: Sam thinks it’s “a shit idea”. He thinks that both Conker’s Bad Fur Day and Postal are bad games that get by solely on crude humor instead of actual quality, and thinks this matchup would be more or less the same. Liam suggests Conker VS Duke Nukem. Sam thinks that’s slightly better, but then DJ brings up Duke Nukem VS Serious Sam, which Sam and Liam both agree is much better.

Max Steel VS Generator Rex: They already talked about it, though Sam is the only one who remembers it. Liam jokingly says they should do it so they can have two characters with the surname MacGrath.

Lego Battle Royale (Lloyd from Ninjago VS Clay from Nexo Knights VS Laval from Chima): They don’t know Clay or Laval, so they don’t really have an opinion on the match. The same comment also mentions Tai Lung VS Morro, but all that leads to is DJ mentioning that you’re not supposed to submit multiple matchups at once.

Lissandra from LoL VS Azshara from WoW: Once again, none of them know much about the characters (Sam has knowledge of WoW, but not the era that Azshara comes from). Based on what they can figure out from the comment, Liam says Lissandra just freezes Azshara, though Sam says that, if she’s a 25-man raid boss, Azshara should have good scaling, and John says that he’s heard Azshara scales to the Lich King. They’re not sure how to scale most LoL characters.

Infinity Ultron VS Fleetway Robotnik: Liam says he would want Robotnik to win. Sam says it would come down to just Metal Sonic, but the others clarify that Fleetway Sonic is very different. DJ mentions Infinity Ultron is very powerful, and they all agree Ultron almost certainly wins (to Liam’s disappointment). Some barely related discussion about TV shows ensues.

Thrall from Warcraft VS Grimgor from Warhammer: Sam thinks it’s cool. He notes how strong Thrall is, but says 40k is a stronger universe overall. Liam points out that Grimgor is from Fantasy, not 40k, but says that probably doesn’t matter. Liam really wants to do a Warhammer episode, but knows that Games Workshop wouldn’t allow it. Sam thinks Thrall is a good pick for a humanoid WoW character.

Giovanni Potage VS Papyrus: They get distracted by the thumbnail using gritty fanart of both. Sam likes the vibe of bumbling idiots who talk more than they fight.

Leone VS Makoto: They all agree Leone would be ******. Only further note is that DJ liked Akame ga Kill when he was 13, and doesn’t anymore.

Kratos VS Asura: They skip past it because they’ve talked about it a lot.

Xeno Gogeta VS Omnimon: Liam says it’s a classic (presumably referring to Gogeta VS Omnimon as a whole). Sam thinks Omnimon looks like Alphonse. Liam and DJ both think it’s sick, and they talk about how insane upper-tier Digimon like Omnimon are. Liam prefers Gogeta over Vegito.

Bowser VS Lord Hater: None of them know anything about Wander Over Yonder. Liam gets the vibe, and they all love Bowser.

Shard the Metal Sonic VS Jenny Wakeman: Liam is the only one familiar with Shard. No actual opinions on the matchup, just advice about how to make thumbnails.

Capsule Corps Goku VS Golden Age Superman: Sam awkwardly scrolls past it.

The Wonder Pets VS Team Umizoomi: Liam says he’s wanted to do this for several years (thought that was probably sarcastic). DJ wants to bring in characters from preschool shows, but also thinks that it would be really weird. Sam also likes the concept of doing preschool show matchups, (he says he saw Teletubbies Sun VS Super Mario Bros. 3 Sun a while back), and thinks that they’ll eventually do at least one, if only because Chad has kids and has to watch those shows all the time, but thinks Wonder Pets VS Umizoomi is too niche. DJ points out that they were both extremely popular in the era they came out in.

Seryu Ubiquitous VS Rob Lucci: Liam thinks Lucci is cool. DJ agrees, but dislikes Seryu. Liam brings up Lucci VS Grimmjow. Sam comments that there’s a lot of fun stuff you could do with the “corrupt governments clash” concept.

William Adams from Nioh VS Wolf from Sekiro: Sam has played the first Nioh, but not the second. He doesn’t think William would win. John comments that William gets pretty ridiculous, but Sam argues that Wolf has a better arsenal and “deflects everything always”, but also admits he may just be saying that because he likes Sekiro more than Nioh. Liam brings up Wolf VS Scorpion, which Sam thinks is fun.

2B VS Sky Striker Ace: Sam thinks a NieR: Automata VS Yu-Gi-Oh matchup sounds buck wild and cool. Everyone else seems to agree.

First matchup for the next Ballot Banter is Arbiter VS Mithrax
 
Tipper17 said:
Good that means folks can stop tinfoil over those episodes happening anytime soon

Ballot Banter #23 Notes
CHAMPIONS
This one features Sam, Liam, John, and DJ.

John Constantine VS Raidou Kuzunoha: Liam immediately says he wants to do it as an episode. He thinks Constantine is a cool character, and that an SMT character would be the best choice for a close fight. John suggests Constantine VS Merlin from Fate. Sam says the matchup makes sense. Discussion devolves into being about Japanese media using Nazi aesthetics. Ultimately, they all like/want the matchup.

Conker VS Postal Dude: Sam thinks it’s “a shit idea”. He thinks that both Conker’s Bad Fur Day and Postal are bad games that get by solely on crude humor instead of actual quality, and thinks this matchup would be more or less the same. Liam suggests Conker VS Duke Nukem. Sam thinks that’s slightly better, but then DJ brings up Duke Nukem VS Serious Sam, which Sam and Liam both agree is much better.

Max Steel VS Generator Rex: They already talked about it, though Sam is the only one who remembers it. Liam jokingly says they should do it so they can have two characters with the surname MacGrath.

Lego Battle Royale (Lloyd from Ninjago VS Clay from Nexo Knights VS Laval from Chima): They don’t know Clay or Laval, so they don’t really have an opinion on the match. The same comment also mentions Tai Lung VS Morro, but all that leads to is DJ mentioning that you’re not supposed to submit multiple matchups at once.

Lissandra from LoL VS Azshara from WoW: Once again, none of them know much about the characters (Sam has knowledge of WoW, but not the era that Azshara comes from). Based on what they can figure out from the comment, Liam says Lissandra just freezes Azshara, though Sam says that, if she’s a 25-man raid boss, Azshara should have good scaling, and John says that he’s heard Azshara scales to the Lich King. They’re not sure how to scale most LoL characters.

Infinity Ultron VS Fleetway Robotnik: Liam says he would want Robotnik to win. Sam says it would come down to just Metal Sonic, but the others clarify that Fleetway Sonic is very different. DJ mentions Infinity Ultron is very powerful, and they all agree Ultron almost certainly wins (to Liam’s disappointment). Some barely related discussion about TV shows ensues.

Thrall from Warcraft VS Grimgor from Warhammer: Sam thinks it’s cool. He notes how strong Thrall is, but says 40k is a stronger universe overall. Liam points out that Grimgor is from Fantasy, not 40k, but says that probably doesn’t matter. Liam really wants to do a Warhammer episode, but knows that Games Workshop wouldn’t allow it. Sam thinks Thrall is a good pick for a humanoid WoW character.

Giovanni Potage VS Papyrus: They get distracted by the thumbnail using gritty fanart of both. Sam likes the vibe of bumbling idiots who talk more than they fight.

Leone VS Makoto: They all agree Leone would be ******. Only further note is that DJ liked Akame ga Kill when he was 13, and doesn’t anymore.

Kratos VS Asura: They skip past it because they’ve talked about it a lot.

Xeno Gogeta VS Omnimon: Liam says it’s a classic (presumably referring to Gogeta VS Omnimon as a whole). Sam thinks Omnimon looks like Alphonse. Liam and DJ both think it’s sick, and they talk about how insane upper-tier Digimon like Omnimon are. Liam prefers Gogeta over Vegito.

Bowser VS Lord Hater: None of them know anything about Wander Over Yonder. Liam gets the vibe, and they all love Bowser.

Shard the Metal Sonic VS Jenny Wakeman: Liam is the only one familiar with Shard. No actual opinions on the matchup, just advice about how to make thumbnails.

Capsule Corps Goku VS Golden Age Superman: Sam awkwardly scrolls past it.

The Wonder Pets VS Team Umizoomi: Liam says he’s wanted to do this for several years (thought that was probably sarcastic). DJ wants to bring in characters from preschool shows, but also thinks that it would be really weird. Sam also likes the concept of doing preschool show matchups, (he says he saw Teletubbies Sun VS Super Mario Bros. 3 Sun a while back), and thinks that they’ll eventually do at least one, if only because Chad has kids and has to watch those shows all the time, but thinks Wonder Pets VS Umizoomi is too niche. DJ points out that they were both extremely popular in the era they came out in.

Seryu Ubiquitous VS Rob Lucci: Liam thinks Lucci is cool. DJ agrees, but dislikes Seryu. Liam brings up Lucci VS Grimmjow. Sam comments that there’s a lot of fun stuff you could do with the “corrupt governments clash” concept.

William Adams from Nioh VS Wolf from Sekiro: Sam has played the first Nioh, but not the second. He doesn’t think William would win. John comments that William gets pretty ridiculous, but Sam argues that Wolf has a better arsenal and “deflects everything always”, but also admits he may just be saying that because he likes Sekiro more than Nioh. Liam brings up Wolf VS Scorpion, which Sam thinks is fun.

2B VS Sky Striker Ace: Sam thinks a NieR: Automata VS Yu-Gi-Oh matchup sounds buck wild and cool. Everyone else seems to agree.

First matchup for the next Ballot Banter is Arbiter VS Mithrax
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Lissandra is high 6-A with 1-C hax

And William is only in Nioh 1 so he doesnt need to have played Nioh 2 to scale him
 
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