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I have actually seen some people on Reddit argue that Kratos wins even with on screen feats only. Something about scaling to Surtr destroying Asgard and two people punching the universe into existence
And Asura beat Chakravartin, the creator of the world (unsure if he meant planet or universe but considering he was sucking in space itself i wouldn't be surprised if he meant universe)
 
I have actually seen some people on Reddit argue that Kratos wins even with on screen feats only. Something about scaling to Surtr destroying Asgard and two people punching the universe into existence
How does Kratos scale to Surtr? Dude effortlessly launches him away with a wave of his hand and that’s before he turns into Ragnarok. Thor does nothing but distract him and Freyr only holds him back few like 10 seconds before dying.
 
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I'm sorry to drag us back to Discord v Bill, but I'm curious about Bill's book.

Regarding any upgrades, is there any reason why the citation of "can navigate through non-linear time" is taken as a reference to a previously unseen power, as opposed to referring to his ability to glimpse into the timelines, aka "navigating through non-linear time."

TBH I could be wrong in remembering the quote, just something that's been on my mind.
 
yes no matter what end ya argue for joker he just outstats the shit outta Giorno
like its been said the debate is based on one thing....
Does Joker bypass GER
yes or no?
Araki fumbled hard by not having Giorno appear in Part 6 Stone Ocean. He doesn’t need to take the spotlight from Jolyne or anything, just so we can know WTF GER was doing when Pucci decided to fast forward the end of the world.
 
Araki fumbled hard by not having Giorno appear in Part 6 Stone Ocean. He doesn’t need to take the spotlight from Jolyne or anything, just so we can know WTF GER was doing when Pucci decided to fast forward the end of the world.
Prolly didnt sense the time acceleration as something harmful towards him, like how time erase wasnt either, only thing harmful was King Crimson about to punch him before time resumed

Giorno had no business with anything since part 5, he became the boss now and will rectify the wrongs Diavolo did and all
 
I'm sorry to drag us back to Discord v Bill, but I'm curious about Bill's book.

Regarding any upgrades, is there any reason why the citation of "can navigate through non-linear time" is taken as a reference to a previously unseen power, as opposed to referring to his ability to glimpse into the timelines, aka "navigating through non-linear time."

TBH I could be wrong in remembering the quote, just something that's been on my mind.
Ngl I saw all the scans and nothing implies physically moving through time. It's all wank.

Not going to low-ball anything because I hate even talking about gravity falls so buying and reading his books would feel like torture, honestly.
 
Hmm for Hulk vs Godzilla, would it be cool if their fighting ends up blasting up reality and they fall to hell for final battle? Since they both basically went there in their stories. Thatd be cool, right?
I totally forsee them settling this in hell, though I don't know if I want them to blast all of reality again. You don't want that to become overused.
yeah i feel ya don't need them to destroy reality but something that sets the next scale of escalation
 


Does this count as new material? :VVVV

EDIT: For HulkGodzilla, not necessarily breaking all of reality ala HulkBroly, just creating a space hole that drops them to hell.
 
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