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Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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ZephyrosOmega said:
Zamasu vs Goetia is literally never happening
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"Never" is a strong word.
I would say highly unlikely however.
Esp if you mean Beast 1 of the Fate series.

Well we can always look to DC "street level" characters. Alfred Pennysworth, Penguin, Two-Face, (maybe not Poison Ivy), Mr Freeze, Riddler, ... A big pool.
Not to mention Sinestro vs Pennywise or Terumi Yuki is always there. Or (a bad one) Supergirl vs Sailor Moon.





Oh my day job schedule is packed and loosened but I believe I am on the track of filling and fitting the puzzles of Ryu Hayabusa. Feel free to drop words about the lore and feats I should look on.



Now I think about it: is Kage (Taito) vs Ryu Hayabusa (Tecmo) a potentially good matchup?
I read that Legend of Kage 2 has massive boost in the character power strength and speed level as if Johnny Cage is being boosted to fight Captain Falcon level super villains.
 
Implying I want DC to get wins and have not explicitly argued that Simon vs Kyle only works as a match because it's a DC L, and have also not explicitly argued for RF/GB being bad
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I'm being realistic. Thinking that DB would do a character that only hardcore fate fans give a shit about, especially thinking that they would do that over a very popular match (No i don't want it to be popular, but it's mainstream and it attracts DB and DC fans which are two huge audiences), ESPECIALLY thinking that this is how they would introduce Fate instead of Saber or Gilgamesh, is silly
 
ZephyrosOmega said:
I'm being realistic. Thinking that DB would do a character that only hardcore fate fans give a shit about, especially thinking that they would do that over a very popular match (No i don't want it to be popular, but it's mainstream and it attracts DB and DC fans which are two huge audiences), ESPECIALLY thinking that this is how they would introduce Fate instead of Saber or Gilgamesh, is silly
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Fate/Grand Order literally has more downloads than the mobile version of Fortnite, and is the 4th most downloaded Mobile Game of all time.
 
While Reverse-Flash is generally more popular (Espesially in the USA), Goetia is surprisingly close on the world stage.
GoetiaVsReverseFlash.jpg
 
The_Smashor said:
Also his arc in the game is getting animated at the end of this month, so his popularity will probably spike then.

Not to mention this is the team that used Lucy. Zamasu can effortlessly carry the episode's view count.
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The team that brought Lucy before Edward Elric and Sailor Galaxia and yet to show us Pegasus Seiya and Cole MacGrath and Alex Mercer. I mean they can do anything they get interested. We may even get Helicarrier vs Delphinus before anything so who knows?



Roy lost.

Next round is Sailor Mercury vs Blue Ranger. One matchup that belongs to DBX and nowhere else. Like this makes Sailor Mercury vs Uryū Ishida or Lapis Lazuli "look tame".
 
Jasonsith said:
Next round is Sailor Mercury vs Blue Ranger. One matchup that belongs to DBX and nowhere else. Like this makes Sailor Mercury vs Uryū Ishida or Lapis Lazuli "look tame".
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I Don't get it...but I love the absurdity I got from reading it.

Voting Blue Ranger, both for the meme but because Billy was always my personal favorite
 
Yeah Reverse Flash vs Black Goku is popular and to point out even more I know more about reverse flash than Goetia. But if mu is good, all would needed is like strong push. Gilgamesh is discussed character in DB and VS community, so Fate is getting enough acknowledge to get in DB. This mu is may unlikely now, but if pushing mu it probably would take attention. Also yes, Carnage vs Lucy happened while I don't think Lucy is that popular (I knew her atm only as girl from very bloody anime).

As much as I may sound naive, but still.
 
Derpmaster9000 said:
And that is precisely why it'll happen. People might say that Thor vs Vegeta is what'll end Dragon Ball's winning streak, but no. Vegeta at least has a chance of winning that you could argue. This however? This is just a horrendous curb-stomp waiting to happen that is a popular matchup, and that's why I oddly see it happening before Vegeta vs Thor.
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I don't know what winning streak there talking about goku got his ass beat twice by superman. And his loses were embarrassing in the first death battle goku got obliterated by superman, in the second one superman shat on him walked through his kamehameha and then blew his brains out honestly I can't think of one character who went out worse than that.
 
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Animegod12345 said:
I don't know what winning streak there talking about goku got his ass beat twice by superman.
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there current winning streak there on you fool
the one started by Mr.Satan
The_Smashor said:
Goetia is Zamasu's most popular matchup ATM I believe, so it's not that unlikely.

Once again, Carnage vs Lucy happened.
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Lucy happened as a last ditch option
Maul didn't make sense outside of Color Scheme
Mercer is saved for Cole
Lucy was like suggested and even then was considered a Gamble
and its really not that popular
Zamasu is not even among the most requested DB characters to appear on the show same with Goetia
 
Tipper17 said:
there current winning streak there on you fool
the one started by Mr.Satan

Lucy happened as a last ditch option
Maul didn't make sense outside of Color Scheme
Mercer is saved for Cole
Lucy was like suggested and even then was considered a Gamble
and its really not that popular
Zamasu is not even among the most requested DB characters to appear on the show same with Goetia
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Lmao I lowkey forgot about Mr.Satan anyways if vegeta loses I don't mind because he already won a death battle before.
 
I saw someone complain that Carnage acts too much like a berserker in Carnage vs Lucy earlier, rather than the tactician he actually is (Depending on the writer), but Carnage actually does use noticeable strategy in the fight. Here's what happens from Carnage's perspective:
  1. Carnage tries a direct attack, but can't get through thanks to an invisible force
  2. Carnage tries arm weapons to break though with brute force
  3. Carnage tries putting his Symbiote on the "barrier" to see if he can mess with it, and then sees it destroy his attack
  4. Carnage tries faster attacks, and notices Lucy actually duck an attack rather than the "Barrier" blocking it
  5. Carnage tries to block an attack to gain an opening, since he now knows Lucy dosn't actually have an invincible barrier
  6. Carnage goes out of sight tries to attack from an unexpected angle, which very nearly lands a killing blow on Lucy, the axe limb appearing not even an inch away from her (Lucy likely only blocking it to show her speed advantage). He then keeps up his advantage until Lucy is knocked away from him. By now, he can probably tell Lucy has invisible limbs rather than a forcefield, espesially with all the attacks he's been hit by so far.
  7. Carnage tries large, heavy projectiles to see if these invisible limbs have limits
  8. Seeing brute force dosn't work, Carnage uses small, rapid attacks to overwhelm Lucy's defenses, which works to an extent since Lucy actually gets hit
  9. Seeing lots of attacks at once can break through, he uses tons of tendrils to try and get a melee hit for his possession
  10. While this dosn't work, it forces Lucy into the air, and Carnage clearly knows (mostly) how Lucy's vectors work, since he specifically climbs up them instead of just trying to jump or fly to her position
  11. Admittedly, staying on them when he's seen that Lucy can get his symbiote off the vectors was kinda dumb, but since Carnage probably thinks Lucy can't do any permanent damage to him at this point, so intimidating her is pretty in character
  12. Carnage then gets grappled by an invisible appendage he couldn't really have reasonably avoided, and didn't really have much reason to due to his regen. Carnage dosn't die because he's an idiot, he dies because Lucy could punch hard enough to create nuclear explosions and Carnage had literally no way of knowing about that, and by the time he finds out he really can't do much about it.
Carnage adapts remarkably well to Lucy's vectors throughout the fight, when a mere raging berserker probably would have just kept throwing themselves at the vectors to no avail with no strategy at all.
 
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CBslayeR said:
Samus vs X is pretty good, Copy X vs Cell is also pretty good
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Tipper17 said:
X vs Samus/Primal
Zero vs Meta Knight
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X vs Samus is good. X vs Primal or KOS-MOS is just wastage.
Zero vs Meta Knight is still there - more likely given the chance Yoda fights either is Being removed by King Mickey.
Copy X vs Cell is underrated.
Glad Aleph vs KOS-MOS is rising. Hope the crew makes the decision well.

The_Smashor said:
Carnage actually does use noticeable strategy in the fight. Here's what happens from Carnage's perspective:
Ditto
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To add (from an in-battle animation perspective):

  • Intimidation is one way to get enemies go radius and leaves an opening for a surprise attack. So it is an in-character move as well as one plausible way to get through defenses of an opponent.
  • Basically Carnage also knows when to retreat. He just could not because Lucy cut off his biomass supplies (by smacking the train and pressing him down firm).

And to further comment, Lucy fought well in the fight - in fact way better than what she could be portrayed in the manga and animation, where most of the time she was fighting 9-A threats or vehicles that has only 9-A to 8-C armor maximum which can be phased through with her vector arms.

JoshDoshMosh said:
Jedah is still there but I ain’t gonna push him for black because I’m not a dark stalkers fans and it probably isn’t my play to give Jedah a matchup
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Jedah is mostly pit against Dormammu, who is also often pitted against Trigon.




Kage (Legend of Kage / Taito) vs Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden / Tecmo) a potentially good Death Battle or not?
 
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The_Smashor said:
I saw someone complain that Carnage acts too much like a berserker in Carnage vs Lucy earlier, rather than the tactician he actually is (Depending on the writer), but Carnage actually does use noticeable strategy in the fight. Here's what happens from Carnage's perspective:
  1. Carnage tries a direct attack, but can't get through thanks to an invisible force
  2. Carnage tries arm weapons to break though with brute force
  3. Carnage tries putting his Symbiote on the "barrier" to see if he can mess with it, and then sees it destroy his attack
  4. Carnage tries faster attacks, and notices Lucy actually duck an attack rather than the "Barrier" blocking it
  5. Carnage tries to block an attack to gain an opening, since he now knows Lucy dosn't actually have an invincible barrier
  6. Carnage goes out of sight tries to attack from an unexpected angle, which very nearly lands a killing blow on Lucy, the axe limb appearing not even an inch away from her (Lucy likely only blocking it to show her speed advantage). He then keeps up his advantage until Lucy is knocked away from him. By now, he can probably tell Lucy has invisible limbs rather than a forcefield, espesially with all the attacks he's been hit by so far.
  7. Carnage tries large, heavy projectiles to see if these invisible limbs
  8. Seeing brute force dosn't work, Carnage uses small, rapid attacks to overwhelm Lucy's defenses, which works to an extent since Lucy actually gets hit
  9. Seeing lots of attacks at once can break through, he uses tons of tendrils to try and get a melee hit for his possession
  10. While this dosn't work, it forces Lucy into the air, and Carnage clearly knows (mostly) how Lucy's vectors work, since he specifically climbs up them instead of just trying to jump or fly to her position
  11. Admittedly, staying on them when he's seen that Lucy can get his symbiote off the vectors was kinda dumb, but since Carnage probably thinks Lucy can't do any permanent damage to him at this point, so intimidating her is pretty in character
  12. Carnage then gets grappled by an invisible appendage he couldn't really have reasonably avoided, and didn't really have much reason to due to his regen. Carnage dosn't die because he's an idiot, he dies because Lucy could punch hard enough to create nuclear explosions and Carnage had literally no way of knowing about that, and by the time he finds out he really can't do much about it.
Carnage adapts remarkably well to Lucy's vectors throughout the fight, when a mere raging berserker probably would have just kept throwing themselves at the vectors to no avail with no strategy at all.
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Honestly, yeah.
 
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