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Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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I mean if Goku wins it'd make sense since he shook an infinite void while Suprman canonically has limits and not infinite power.
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The_Smashor said:
Does Xeno Goku speedblitz or something? Because Superman prime upscales considerably from his 2-A IIRC.
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Only with Rebirth. By the way, we just know he's faster than a Superman who's considerably faster than the one who flew through the universe in 2 months. Xeno Goku can go dozens of sextillions apparently, which is way faster than that Superman feat. Thus since Prime is just much faster than that Supes feat, but by how much we don't know, he doesn't naturally reach what Xeno Goku apparently reaches.
 
I honestly kinda like Xeno Goku vs Superman Prime honestly, even if Prime dosn't really have much footage to work with.

It's Goku vs Superman but future versions of themselves. The potential for the sheer respect the two could show each other in the animation as older and wiser versions of themselves is amazing, probably rivaling All Might vs Might Guy.

Superman's Green Lantern Ring and Goku using the Power Pole more gives more opportunities for choreography, as well.

Not to mention, due to these characters being so far from their regular selves, it avoids a lot of the shitshow of normal Goku vs Superman.

Also, the multipliers applying to speed seem to be more or less legit just based on context clues (Like Kaio-Kenx10 Goku getting blitzed by Frieza but Super Saiyan Goku blitzing him). AFAIK the multiplier is also not stated to just be a power multiplier.
 
ZephyrosOmega said:
Applying multipliers to DBZ speed is really dumb and if you used that you could use statements of how fast the DC universe expanded which would knock DC character speeds into exceptionally stupid levels
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If we used that, we might as well go extra ******** and use death battle logic. Goku moved in a timestop, therefore, infinite speed. Superman has done the same, therefore, neither is faster than the other, and both break logic.
 
Derpmaster9000 said:
If we used that, we might as well go extra ******** and use death battle logic. Goku moved in a timestop, therefore, infinite speed. Superman has done the same, therefore, neither is faster than the other, and both break logic.
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If you want to go that route, superman has moved fast enough to time travel which is immeasurable speed

Also, archie sonic had very specific circumstances and mentioned it was done through being fast, not just having time stop resistance. DB knows the difference.
 
ZephyrosOmega said:
If you want to go that route, superman has moved fast enough to time travel which is immeasurable speed

Also, archie sonic had very specific circumstances and mentioned it was done through being fast, not just having time stop resistance. DB knows the difference.
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There was no mention of time stop resistance in the scene though, lol. That's just something vs battles put in because infinite speed Goku sounds utterly stupid. Also, multiple versions of Goku would also qualify for immeasurable speed too, but vs wiki literally changed their standards twice so that didn't happen, lol. This circle never ends boy, if you pull the most obscure ass feat for Supes, you gotta do the same for Goku, and it ends up being a right mess once you do.
 
Animegod12345 said:
Dragon ball heroes in general is so fan fiction it hurts my eyes. And half the stuff on his profile is really questionable if we're being honest like bfr, soul manipulation wtf?! Even if it's heroes has goku shown soul manipulation like actually doing it. And what's up with the unholy manipulation?
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But he dosn't have Soul Manipulation or Unholy Manipulation? At all? I think you're looking at his resistances.

BFR probably has something to do with Time Travel.
 
Animegod12345 said:
Dragon ball heroes in general is so fan fiction it hurts my eyes. And half the stuff on his profile is really questionable if we're being honest like bfr, soul manipulation wtf?! Even if it's heroes has goku shown soul manipulation like actually doing it. And what's up with the unholy manipulation?
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I could say the same for a couple things on the DMC profiles here, but it won't really go anywhere.
 
ZephyrosOmega said:
If you want to go that route, superman has moved fast enough to time travel which is immeasurable speed

Also, archie sonic had very specific circumstances and mentioned it was done through being fast, not just having time stop resistance. DB knows the difference.
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Actually, I heard that in those instances, he time-travelled by moving close to the speed of light, lol. DC treated the time-barrier as lesser than the light barrier in a number of instances, from what I recall, so that's probably not as viable as you think. Unlike in early seasons, Death battle seems somewhat capable of reading the panels they get feats from, and reading anything that mentions approaching the speed of light or something equivalent knocks immeasurable right out of the park.
 
Animegod12345 said:
Eh I probably was anyways why exactly is xeno goku 2-A what feats put him on that level?
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"Was overpowering and defeated Transcended Demigra, who was going to cause the collapse of the DBH Multiverse and Beat's World, in his base form. Defeated Chamel who gained all of Demigra's powers and with his presence alone was about to collapse the Multiverse and Beat's World. One-shot Gravy as an SS3 who is stronger than Demigra and fought against SS4 Broly Dark alongside Final Form Mira as SS4"

Can you please read the profile before you complain about it?

Edit: Oh, you mean the specifically infinite thing. Here.
 
Animegod12345 said:
Eh I probably was anyways why exactly is xeno goku 2-A what feats put him on that level?
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Apparently, according to the profiles:
Dunno the context, could be BS, you never know with this wiki
 
Derpmaster9000 said:
Actually, I heard that in those instances, he time-travelled by moving close to the speed of light, lol. DC treated the time-barrier as lesser than the light barrier in a number of instances, from what I recall, so that's probably not as viable as you think. Unlike in early seasons, Death battle seems somewhat capable of reading the panels they get feats from, and reading anything that mentions approaching the speed of light or something equivalent knocks immeasurable right out of the park.
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Except the speed of light in DC is unironically treated as immeasurable in most instances lol
 
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