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If by some reason Naruto does manage to create some time to use Asura, What would be Ichigo’s answer to The ultra big rasen bijuu 2 shuriken?
He can take attacks with much higher ap than his, like Cero Oscuras from First Form Ulquiorra, which would mean there was a 50 to 100 times difference, compared to Naruto's 2 times higher.

Ichigo still has things to close the gap and surpass it.
 
Speed amps are very much relevant. Ichigo can stack 3 FTE amps variants that make him incredibly hard to sense due to their properties on top of constant power and speed upgrade via rage boosts and reactive power level. And this version of Ichigo very much do use bringer light and sonido in characther.
If speed is equalized why does getting amps make him faster? Not only that but where is it stated that Ichigo has Rage boosts?
The clones are useless due to Ichigo reiatsu constantly applying his higher AP to them constantly and passivelly. Naruto may resist the soul aspect now, but he will still take the physical pressure of the reiatsu wich is superior to his durability and while Naruto himself may be able to tank the pressure for a bit, his clones have even lower durability compared to him as proven multiple times.They will pop very quickly without Ichigo having to do anything. Also the rinnegan have no feat of sensing souls directly so the argument that Ichigo can't discern the real Naruto from the clones because Sasuke can't is invalid.
Naruto resists the soul aspect much more than you think hence SOSP grants him not only resistance to TSO but also invulnerability to ninjutsu, this includes Dan's soul hax and arguably Deidara's C0, however does Ichigo utilize his SP in this way? There have been various times where he hasn't to weaker characters even Hallow's where he just cuts them or uses Getsuga but the clones are a little underrated here, especially with the ability to get beat up by Sasuke after he absorbed the chakra from all 9 TB and fight Limbo clones that are equal to Madara. Anywho Madara sensed the real Naruto with a normal Rinnegan, but Sasuke nor Kaguya cannot with a higher form.
Even if Ichigo GT heat massivelly downscale from Yama 15 Millions, he would still vape naruto.
Why? I gave you the reasoning for him not doing something on Yama's level, what other heat feat does he have in this form?
Characthers that already have resistance to the hollow corruption still need to deconstruct it at the macro quantum spiritual level to be able to intake it without much trouble. Naruto's soul is not resisting that level of corruption.
Can you show me this?
The stone statue point is interresting but would nature energy be comparable enough to reiatsu for Ichigo to absorb it ? Nature energy is closer to reishi (Elements found all around both verses and can be used for power) wich is completely different to reiatsu.
The toad tranformation/petrification also only happen when you are failing to balance it with your chakra ammount. Meaning Ichigo would need to absorb enough nature energy to surpass his current ammount of reiryoku , wich i really don't see happening any time soon considering his massive reserves.
Yes, it's intertwined with Naruto's chakra. Toad tranformation/petrification happens when you take in too much but even pains bodies cannot take much even despite it being able to absorb everything like a bottomless pit.
Still voting Ichigo.
cool.
 
If speed is equalized why does getting amps make him faster?
Because they are amps..... amps still work in speed equalized matches.
Not only that but where is it stated that Ichigo has Rage boosts?
In his profile.
Naruto resists the soul aspect much more than you think hence SOSP grants him not only resistance to TSO but also invulnerability to ninjutsu, this includes Dan's soul hax and arguably Deidara's C0
Deidara's explosion is not counted as Soul Hax on his profile. Dan's hax are also more manipulation based and not offensive outright soul destruction.
however does Ichigo utilize his SP in this way? There have been various times where he hasn't to weaker characters even Hallow's where he just cuts them or uses Getsuga.
He used SC against two captains in the first arc. He also constantly emits it in battle, so each clone is getting passively corrupted with instantaneous effect.
but the clones are a little underrated here, especially with the ability to get beat up by Sasuke after he absorbed the chakra from all 9 TB and fight Limbo clones that are equal to Madara.
They clashed with Sasuke, they didn't get "beat up"
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The one clone that got hit got slammed into the ground and disappeared.
Why? I gave you the reasoning for him not doing something on Yama's level, what other heat feat does he have in this form?
Ichigo's heat is definitely near there as Arc stated earlier. He also covered both the counter arguments of being offguard and also not using Blut. That output is enough to fry Naruto.
Can you show me this?
A better argument is that Naruto simply doesn't resist it. Naruto's decon is nowhere close to macro-quantum to completely get rid of it or make it less of an issue.
 
Go look at the speed equal rules.
Go look at Ichigo profile, specifically his AP section. You'll see "higher when enraged".

I don't see immunity to all jutsu in naruto profile. Unless you mean the TSO.
Reiatsu is passive , Ichigo do not need to specifically use it or even want to hurt his opponents with it, it will happen if they don't resist or aren't strong enough. And with the current stats on their profile, Naruto will be constantly pummelled by nearly 2x his maximum durability. The clones will not survive that for long if at all especially if he make a lot of them.

Because he can burn base Yhwach who can tank 15M with blut. Even dividing 15M by 5x (blut defensive amp value) or even x100, it still waaayyyy over anything Naruto tanked heat wise.

Look at the Quilge fight. He can resist the reiatsu of many hollows that fight and damage him but still need to deconstruct at macro quantum level (accepted quincy level of deconstruction and manipulation) their reiatsu and reishi if he want to injest high ammount of it without dying.

The mechanics of why and how petrification via sage mode happen is very clearly explained. It need to surpass your current ammount of chakra ,wich for ichigo would be his reiryoku. And as Arc also stated above, shinigami have vents on their wrist that would allow the nature energy to constantly release the absorbed nature energy anyway. So ichigo will never have more nature energy in his system than his own reiryoku, making the petrification near impossible to pull off.

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Ichigo’s Blut L5B is like 600 Exatons

Nard can bounce anywhere from 845 Exatons to 5 Zettatons with higher end jutsu

If the main argument was concerning AP the match would still probably need to be removed even if they’re both L5B, but Arc’s main argument was Hax-based so it’s fine staying on the profile
 
I feel like the AP upgrade only means that Naruto has certain ways to straight up one-shot Ichigo with his higher end forms and jutsu, but doesn’t discern the hax arguments. If anything, we can say for certain that the match can be added since it’s not one-sided.
 
If there is still time to vote then I vote Naruto, he has regen to heal any sword slash he gets. Rasenshuriken would wreck Ichigo due to cell level damage, as well as paralysing Ichigo afterwords. He's more skilled and versatile, can easily overwhelm Ichigo with shadow clones, He can outsmart Ichigo etc

Ichigo is just a brick with a sword I don't see him winning
 
If there is still time to vote then I vote Naruto, he has regen to heal any sword slash he gets. Rasenshuriken would wreck Ichigo due to cell level damage, as well as paralysing Ichigo afterwords. He's more skilled and versatile, can easily overwhelm Ichigo with shadow clones, He can outsmart Ichigo etc

Ichigo is just a brick with a sword I don't see him winning
The attacks of ichigo damage his soul, and as far as I know naruto does not heal his soul

Hard to fire a rasenshuriken when he is affected by reiatsu crush which is passive ei. Faster than anything naruto has.

Shadow clones are easy to destroy and getsuga is AOE attack.

Ichigo is not stupid, neither in academics nor combat
 
The attacks of ichigo damage his soul, and as far as I know naruto does not heal his soul

Hard to fire a rasenshuriken when he is affected by reiatsu crush which is passive ei. Faster than anything naruto has.

Shadow clones are easy to destroy and getsuga is AOE attack.

Ichigo is not stupid, neither in academics nor combat
grace is over and RC is not an issue
 
If there is still time to vote then I vote Naruto, he has regen to heal any sword slash he gets. Rasenshuriken would wreck Ichigo due to cell level damage, as well as paralysing Ichigo afterwords. He's more skilled and versatile, can easily overwhelm Ichigo with shadow clones, He can outsmart Ichigo etc

Ichigo is just a brick with a sword I don't see him winning
Naruto is NOT more skilled than Ichigo, it's the other way around. He also isn't outsmarting him either, Ichigo is a combat genius.

Ichigo also resists atomic and macro quantum decon so Rasenshuriken is moot, as well as resisting paralysis too.

Most if not all of Naruto's versatility in hax gets resisted.

The soul damage ain't getting low-mid regen'd and Ichigo's corruption is screwing over Naruto with Death manip.

Beyond that, we are far from grace, this match is pending addition
 
Ichigo also resists atomic and macro quantum decon so Rasenshuriken is moot, as well as resisting paralysis too
I don't really get this point. What does him resisting deconstruction have to do with the rasenshuriken? All the rasenshuriken does is deal damage but on the cellular lever using microscopic wind blades, it's not hax per say and definitely isn't deconstruction either, just a heavy damage dealer.
 
I don't really get this point. What does him resisting deconstruction have to do with the rasenshuriken? All the rasenshuriken does is deal damage but on the cellular lever using microscopic wind blades, it's not hax per say and definitely isn't deconstruction either, just a heavy damage dealer.
Because attacks and hax on that level aren't gonna work. It's why Rasenshuriken is limited dura neg. Aizen's Kurohitsugi was stated by him that it would atomize Ichigo.
 
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