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DEATH BATTLE! Accuracy Scale [Part 9, We're not Windows or Apple after all]
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Still has hax
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If Raiden wins would it be correct by our standards as he’s high 7-C while Excalibur is low 7-C but has a higher key yet both have dura bypass moves albeit Excalibur’s is better
and Raiden Is faster or slower? Combat and reaction speed
and didn’t warframes have like several kinds of immortality at one point?
Kirbonic_Pikmin
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By our sites rules this one will probably be an iffy decision since Raiden has the ability to one shot and is faster/comparable in combat & reaction speed but Excalibur outhaxxes and possibly beats him in AP.
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I mean:
1. It is sponsored by Warframe, that was confirmed even before they announced who's gonna fight Excalibur.
2. It is bonus episode btw
3. Raiden still can win, but the main question is who wins by our own standards.
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but im pretty sure this is a basic Excalibur frame and the only hax Excalibur has is its energy blade that can cut space and stuff and a bright light
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Well they had Excalibur win and they scaled him to Atlas and speaking of atlas is it me or is this vandalism to his and several other frames profiles as someone gave them every type of immortality except 5 and that doesn’t seem right
Immortality (Type 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8 and 9, The Tenno are soulless meat puppets for The Operator who manipulate them from afar, and being able to create copies when they are destroyed
Immortality (Type 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8 and 9, The Tenno are soulless meat puppets for The Operator who manipulate them from afar, and being able to create copies when they are destroyed
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Well they had Excalibur win and they scaled him to Atlas which doesn’t seem right
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But there are still country level argument for Ex, he has dura neg sword, similar speed and immortality.
So I guess he should win.
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Welp, looks like Dante and Vergil got upgraded!
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bump
Crowman123
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Star is a charcter that can delete universe from existance? The biggest plothole of the entire show is as to why she is given a weapon that has power to erase entire universes from existance.
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Ok so basically
Dante vs Bayonetta should be right and Vergil vs Sephiroth wrong cause lol dimensional tiering right?
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no. It is accurate for the time.
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The information that made those buffs happen didn't exist until after both DMC episodes
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Sooo... Do we rate the episodes by how correct they are ATT or as they are right now?
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Its based on the profiles
If a match was correct when it was new, but is wrong later in time, it is put as correct at that time
If a match was correct when it was new, but is wrong later in time, it is put as correct at that time
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Oh so, false alarm.
Yeah I almost forgot that we're rating episodes at the time it came out, and those episodes came out way before DMCV or PoC stuff.
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What were then the AP of the characters ATT?
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Every type of Immortality on the frame profiles seems unbased and more like some troll penned that it in due to how unprofessional its written and the fact that certain frames have it penned in and others don’t as if it wasn’t actually an approved addition to the profiles to begin with
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So is popeye vs saitama right still? As saitama seems to be getting upgraded to 4-A soon and is faster if we don’t consider popeye being able to be in two places at once immeasurable
however Saitama still can’t bypass low-godly regen and is still vulnerable to popeyes transmutation punch
and would still likely employ his standard tactics of not bothering on dodging and just taking hits considering popeye would just appear to be a normal guy to him
however Saitama still can’t bypass low-godly regen and is still vulnerable to popeyes transmutation punch
and would still likely employ his standard tactics of not bothering on dodging and just taking hits considering popeye would just appear to be a normal guy to him
Kirbonic_Pikmin
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Yes, it's still correct.
While Saitama has gained a lot of boons like seemingly higher AP, power mimicry, time travel (these two in particular may become OOC for him to use however, depending on if he retains memory of using them or not) and seemingly adaptive power growth give Saitama some potential advantages...
He still cannot bypass Popeye's regeneration, it would take far too long for him to be able to grow in power to reach a level that could touch Popeye's universal durability, Popeye is still faster if you include his infinite speed feat (which the DB team took into account), and all he needs is a single punch to take out Saitama considering he does not currently resist transmutation (Saitama could potentially come to resist transmutation depending on if he fights God and he tries to transmute Saitama and... fails), and considering Saitama doesn't dodge hits, all it would take is a single transmutation punch from Popeye to end the fight as is.
Even if Saitama does come to resist transmutation, Popeye likely still comes out on top due to just, Saitama having no way around his regeneration and Popeye's higher speed means eventually Popeye and his toon force would chip into Saitama enough to put him down. Until Saitama gets a way to deal with regeneration and resists transmutation, he'll lose to Popeye.
While Saitama has gained a lot of boons like seemingly higher AP, power mimicry, time travel (these two in particular may become OOC for him to use however, depending on if he retains memory of using them or not) and seemingly adaptive power growth give Saitama some potential advantages...
He still cannot bypass Popeye's regeneration, it would take far too long for him to be able to grow in power to reach a level that could touch Popeye's universal durability, Popeye is still faster if you include his infinite speed feat (which the DB team took into account), and all he needs is a single punch to take out Saitama considering he does not currently resist transmutation (Saitama could potentially come to resist transmutation depending on if he fights God and he tries to transmute Saitama and... fails), and considering Saitama doesn't dodge hits, all it would take is a single transmutation punch from Popeye to end the fight as is.
Even if Saitama does come to resist transmutation, Popeye likely still comes out on top due to just, Saitama having no way around his regeneration and Popeye's higher speed means eventually Popeye and his toon force would chip into Saitama enough to put him down. Until Saitama gets a way to deal with regeneration and resists transmutation, he'll lose to Popeye.
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Tbh the Popeye Uni switch feat might be more hax than AP. When Big Man eventually lost to Popeye, he flicked the switch again and everything was back to normal, in fact time didnt actually move and Popeye's friends were confused when Popeye said he beat up god. Thats not quite AP feat.
Still, yeah Popeye's regen made him come back from being completely destroyed. Maybe if Saitama gets true existence erasure, soul and all, he'd win but its still not enough if DB gives Popeye that inf. speed and Saitama has no transmutation resistance.
Still, yeah Popeye's regen made him come back from being completely destroyed. Maybe if Saitama gets true existence erasure, soul and all, he'd win but its still not enough if DB gives Popeye that inf. speed and Saitama has no transmutation resistance.
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I mean, if it's based on our profiles, death battle being wrong about Popeye's speed dosn't really matter
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That one also keeps slipping from me lol
Popeye still has low Godly regen here and transmutation, but its Relativistic+ vs FTL, Saitama is faster here. Are there planned speed upgrades for Saitama? I'm not sure can raw AP overcome low-Godly regen here.
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There's no way in hell infinite speed Popeye isn't an outlier.
Although, yeah, by definition you cannot overcome Low-Godly with Raw AP, though if Saitama gets the ability to punch ghosts he could probably win.
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Oh no, pretty sure inf. speed thing is Popeye hitting himself feat taken for extreme or whatever, I wasnt agreeing on that. I was pondering how much does Saitama get faster with newer feats.
But still, if low Godly regen cant be overcome by AP, Popeye by profiles is just way too unkillable.
But still, if low Godly regen cant be overcome by AP, Popeye by profiles is just way too unkillable.
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Tbf Saitama shown to punch a minscape with the phoenix character iirc and also shown he can grab and kick hyperspaces from Garou
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Unfortunately neither punching into a mindscape or grabbing and kicking hyperspace portals would allow Saitama to harm Popeyes soul, we're pretty strict about things like that. He'll more than likely punch ghosts at some point in the future but as of right now he's kinda helpless against Low-Godly tegen
Honestly it's pretty wild how absurd Low-Godly regen and above can be, like Ganondorf for example is Island to Continent level yet Saitama (as of right now) can't actually beat him despite being able to destroy multiple solar systems since Ganon just regens from all the attacks.
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Still correct for one simple reason.
At time episode came out, those feats weren't existing.
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Even now it is still correct, given Saitama cant get around transmutation and busted regen
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Why is Popeye's dura still High 4-C then? Is he getting an upgrade?
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Because we keep mistaking using stats that are not in profiles.
Speaking of which...
Someone said Ganon has low Godly regen and uhh he does have that even in base for some reason.
So as ******* cursed as that is, doesn't that unfortunately mean Bowser is ******? What does he have in profiles to counter low Godly regen?
Speaking of which...
Someone said Ganon has low Godly regen and uhh he does have that even in base for some reason.
So as ******* cursed as that is, doesn't that unfortunately mean Bowser is ******? What does he have in profiles to counter low Godly regen?
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Non-Physical Interaction, most notably he once destroyed the soul of the elder princess shroob so Bowser can just tear apart Ganons body and then when his soul is hanging about (Since in every instance of Ganon regenerating his soul is fully exposed before he reforms his body) Bowser can nuke it. Also sealing, worse comes to worse he'd eventually resort to just sealing Ganondorf away.
Yeah it's really weird he has it even in his base but Nintendo decided he should just regenerate from his soul in ALTTP for some reason so it is what it is.
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Bowser wasn’t the one to destroy Elder Princess Shroob’s soul, and besides as of the Bowser’s Inside Story remake she’s still alive (frozen but alive)
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Do we see any examples of Ganon regenerating? If not then that should be removed
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