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For the Whedon sure, I’m pretty the synder version didn’t pull that off though
TBH Snyder version should be nuked
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For the Whedon sure, I’m pretty the synder version didn’t pull that off though
TBH Snyder version should be nuked
Irrelevant since we take the TC as canon and tbh we should get rid of th Snyder keysFor the Whedon sure, I’m pretty the synder version didn’t pull that off though
How exactly is that supposed to prove cyborg scales to Clark’s physical when all it did was push something?The force doesn't need to be equivalent to it's tier, it just needs to push something back forcefully and we have instances of that
it kinda is relevant when synder characters have different feats and different continuity from cannon versions but whateverIrrelevant since we take the TC as canon and tbh we should get rid of th Snyder keys
Ok I agree with it having physical force but again it harms people via heat not force. The only exception would probably be DD since his a mutant. And even then it’s still debatable(many for the syndercut version) considering it seems like Clark was pulling his punches. Seeing as even Batman could survive getting blasted in his face.This and this demonstrates that Kryptonian HV imparts physical force since it causes shockwaves and pushes foes back, and it’s powerful enough to blow back and harm other High 7-As like Supes and Wondy. It’s basically an Energy Attack, not just heat.
Supes’ HV blew back and injured Steppenwolf in the Snyder Cut.
Also, Cyborg aided in the separation of the Mother Boxes, which caused an explosion that slightly harmed Superman, something Cyborg withstood.Smh I can’t believe I rewatched Whedon cut scenes
what also happens in the syndercut?I also believe it happens in the TC so it qualifies
Cyborg's thing is also more technopathy and his durability feat is kinda weird ngl
We have stuff for the actual destruction the world engine does and it's High 7-A. Even if it surfaced wiped overtime, it's clear that's what it's supposed to do in a combat applicable span of time.
I'm not saying he'd scale outright to Supes since that's clearly an outlier, only that Heat Vision does meet the criteria it not just being Heat Resistance. It's perfectly valid as actual APHow exactly is that supposed to prove cyborg scales to Clark’s physical when all it did was push something?
When Wonder Woman attempted to block and push back against Doomsday’s HV it overpowered her, showing its force is High 7-A.Ok I agree with it having physical force but again it harms people via heat not force. The only exception would probably be DD since his a mutant. And even then it’s still debatable(many for the syndercut version) considering it seems like Clark was pulling his punches. Seeing as even Batman could survive getting blasted in his face.
I know I’m just saying how is that supposed to be proof for him to scale to something meaningfulIn fairness the High 7-A is just it's impact on Earth and not it's actual terraformation.
I'm not saying he'd scale outright to Supes since that's clearly an outlier, only that Heat Vision does meet the criteria it not just being Heat Resistance. It's perfectly valid as actual AP
fair enoughWhen Wonder Woman attempted to block and push back against Doomsday’s HV it overpowered her, showing its force is High 7-A.
Also when does Batman tank HV to the face? He’s a completely normal human with neither Heat Resistance nor High 7-A durability so that sounds like textbook PIS.
... So like, the terraformation isn't actually applicable to combat then?In fairness the High 7-A is just it's impact on Earth and not it's actual terraformation.
The High 7-A is the World Forger creating a shockwave that cratered a mountain and we use it to scale since Supes oneshot it easilyIf by paradox this terraforming is High 6-C and the clear visible impact we see and is tanked by Superman is High 7-A, why would we take the former?
What do you mean?Even if it surfaced wiped overtime, it's clear that's what it's supposed to do in a combat applicable span of time.
Huh? I'm pretty sure the High 7-A calc is not from the terraforming beam, but from the World Engine simply crashing into a mountain.I still don't agree with the calc
We have stuff for the actual destruction the world engine does and it's High 7-A. Even if it surfaced wiped overtime, it's clear that's what it's supposed to do in a combat applicable span of time.
Yeah, the High 7-A is a KE impact calc.Huh? I'm pretty sure the High 7-A calc is not from the terraforming beam, but from the World Engine simply crashing into a mountain.
Superman already scales far above that for one-shotting it.
FragYeah, the High 7-A is a KE impact calc.
Actually, found it, that wasn't frag either, that's also brute-force KE. The impact is 7-A+.Frag
The KE was something else
Actually it has two KE calcs.Wait what?
I thought that was just the KE of the World Engine
It never was.I thought the mountain was just frag
Huh TIL
Of course, there HAD to be something to make an interesting calc nigh-impossibleApparently even the High 7-A calc is a lowball because the mountain was far away, and inverse-square law dictates that it'd be even stronger at the point of origin. So uh...
Problem is, you can't reverse-inverse-square law it because the mountain's surface area and distance angsizing are next to impossible to calculate due to shit angles and placement.
Oh definitelyTBH 6-C mountain busting would be based
You mean the tsunami that sunked Atlantis?While we're here a recalc of the Atlantis feat using Greenland might be worth doing since there's continental statements for it and the tsunami in Aquaman might be worth calcing but idk if it scales to physicals at all