DCEU General Discussion Thread

[Dalesean027]

And yet they killed some

yeah but that still doesn't change the fact he literally gets nuked by a 7-C+ blast and is just completely dead. like I said he'd literally need another key for him being low 6-B and relativistic+ to keep things consistent cause otherwise he's literally only shown consistently to be at max high 8-C and up to Supersonic speeds

 

[Dalesean027]

Sorry but I just do not buy him just normally being high end tier 7 or mid tier 6 without having some kinda resurrected key cause they consistently have shown otherwise with him being killed by 7-C blast on top of that.


Like I'm not just completely against the upgrades it just has to be done in a way that's actually sensible

 

[Propellus]

yeah but that still doesn't change the fact he literally gets nuked by a 7-C+ blast and is just completely dead. like I said he'd literally need another key for him being low 6-B and relativistic+ to keep things consistent cause otherwise he's literally only shown consistently to be at max high 8-C and up to Supersonic speeds

Then I guess a new key for him should be fair then.

 

[Propellus]

But at the same time, I don't recall necessarily seeing any anti-feats against Shazam's MHS+ rating as his powers are operating on standard cloud-to-ground lightning (Which is also Black Adam's power source), and he usually consistently uses that to blitz

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Sorry but I just do not buy him just normally being high end tier 7 or mid tier 6 without having some kinda resurrected key cause they consistently have shown otherwise with him being killed by 7-C blast on top of that.


Like I'm not just completely against the upgrades it just has to be done in a way that's actually sensible

Well wouldn’t he be technically weakening himself by giving his power to his family ?

 

[Dinobot1996]

I thought it was stated that everything within the dome at it's original size would have been annihilated by the explosion if it hadn't been shrunken down.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Shazam's sacrifice explosion

vsbattles.fandom.com

he dies to a 7-C+ boom

No bruh the dome was shortened to minimise the damage it was stated it would blow up the whole area in its initial state before compression

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I thought it was stated that everything within the dome at it's original size would have been annihilated by the explosion if it hadn't been shrunken down.

Yeah it was

 

[Dalesean027]

Kay I didn't remember that line but if someone gets the scans then we can calc it like that though it'd probably cap at around 7-B+ up to maybe MAYBE 7-A which would still cap him there far below 6-B

 

[ArkhamDC06]

A Shazam thread? Nice, I was planning a profile for Hespera

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Kay I didn't remember that line but if someone gets the scans then we can calc it like that though it'd probably cap at around 7-B+ up to maybe MAYBE 7-A which would still cap him there far below 6-B

Damn I deleted the movie .
Let me get it from somewhere somehow

 

[Propellus]

Damn I deleted the movie .

Massive rip

 

[Reyne]

The explosion inside of that dome didn't even take out the stadium; the explosion could be an organic attack. Also, Black Adam draws his power from different gods and while having less experience than Shazam, is capable of consistently moving at high speeds and demonstrating immense strength (the one thing that movie does better than any other).

 

[Dalesean027]

Also even then the stadium is still mostly intact

got ninja'd but yeah the stadium didn't even take major damage so this coulr be a hype statement

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Also even then the stadium is still mostly intact

He pointed all of his attacks on the whatever her name and dragon breathe. More like it blasted off in a single point.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Massive rip

Snip

Here you go

 

[Dinobot1996]

Maybe Shazam is more vulnerable to magic-based attacks? There are a couple statements in the movies to support that, as well as a director statement. Even Hawkman made a similar statement regarding Black Adam.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Maybe Shazam is more vulnerable to magic-based attacks? There are a couple statements in the movies to support that, as well as a director statement. Even Hawkman made a similar statement regarding Black Adam.

Yeah Honestly they can tank physical attacks with no problem it's just magic is like a poison or durability negation.

 

[Propellus]

So the magic in this instance is seen as hax?

 

[ArkhamDC06]

So the magic in this instance is seen as hax?

Not necessarily. Remember than Shazam's strength, speed, etc, are powered by Magic so even raw strength alone is magical in nature

 

[Propellus]

I see

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

So the magic in this instance is seen as hax?

Something like that but physically Shazam should scale to black Adam honestly

 

[Dalesean027]

Something like that but physically Shazam should scale to black Adam honestly

Only in another key though if his cap is too low

Here you go

Get the scale of the original size and we can calc the boon for that to find shazam's tier cap

Tier cap ofc being cause it'll kill him either way. I suppose his low end tier cap iisa 7-C+ that's weaker than start of MoS supes

 

[Dalesean027]

 

[Dinobot1996]

This might be the best glimpse of the full dome over Philadelphia at it's original size unless I'm forgetting something, but hopefully it can be used to determine what it would take to one-shot Shazam (well, with a magic-based attack at least)

 

[Dalesean027]

This might be the best glimpse of the full dome over Philadelphia at it's original size unless I'm forgetting something, but hopefully it can be used to determine what it would take to one-shot Shazam (well, with a magic-based attack at least)

Should be fine thanks

 

[Dalesean027]

This might be the best glimpse of the full dome over Philadelphia at it's original size unless I'm forgetting something, but hopefully it can be used to determine what it would take to one-shot Shazam (well, with a magic-based attack at least)

Going by this assuming you get even a 5000m diameter for the explosion you'd net only 1.255 megatons as a cap but this looks the be smaller and for references the current radius is like 876m so it at most will be breaching low 7-B

 

[Dinobot1996]

Going by this assuming you get even a 5000m diameter for the explosion you'd net only 1.255 megatons as a cap but this looks the be smaller and for references the current radius is like 876m so it at most will be breaching low 7-B

Well, I'm still not sure how we should treat magic apparently being notably effective against Shazam (which seems like it should be mentioned in his weaknesses), but at least we now have a better idea on his limit against it.

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

 

[AnonymousBlank]

My boy Nate is finally gonna be a Lantern in live action. It’s a good day to be alive.

 

[LordTracer]

I need the scene of Batman one-punching Guy Gardner to be adapted in live action-

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Hawkgirl and Guy is a bit of a weird choice for a Superman movie, but I still like it

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Why does the World's Engine terraforming feat scale to its durability?

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Why does the World's Engine terraforming feat scale to its durability?

There's the justification there about a big chunk still there after Superman destroyed it

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

There's the justification there about a big chunk still there after Superman destroyed it

That doesn't really answer anything, considering Superman is Low 6-B via destroying the World Engine's durability.

Also would it be better to just rename this thread into like the general DC media thread or something?

 

[Propellus]

Also would it be better to just rename this thread into like the general DC media thread or something?

What for?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

What for?

I mean the DCEU is ending with the DCU coming, and I often see people talk about the other live action shows here, not related to the DCEU.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

That doesn't really answer anything, considering Superman is Low 6-B via destroying the World Engine's durability.

He's Low 6-B because he tanked the beam of the WE, which is Low 6-B

The WE's durability weirdly scales to Superman despite him clearly one-shotting it

Also would it be better to just rename this thread into like the general DC media thread or something?

Sure

 

[Propellus]

I mean the DCEU is ending with the DCU coming, and I often see people talk about the other live action shows here, not related to the DCEU.

There's a good chance that Flash's new timeline might be the DCU by then though

 

[Dalesean027]

Shazam's sacrifice explosion

vsbattles.fandom.com

Updated this so now the Full Dome size would make shazam just barely cap out at low 7-B before his resurrection instead of the 7-C+ for the shrunken dome either way though he'd need another key cause both of these are so far below anything needed to be remotely close to low 6-B