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Dceu faora and Nam-ek should not scale to Clark
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Well, at the very least, we have a 9-A calc for Superman moving part of a cloud, so if the mountaintop feat or the silos feats aren't calced, we could also just use this first.
Imagine DCEU Superman being weaker than MCU She-Hulk lmao
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Just curious, but what about Supes and Zod’s casual clash which I think yielded 8-C.
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Haven't watched Man of Steel in a long time. But the feat happened quite a bit later into the movie, no? And tbh, I think General Zod at that point should just be scaling/downscaling from the World Engine feat. But maybe I'm wrong
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It dose, so it’s not usable in the instance
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It’s an extremely casual feat by Supes right after he resists the pull of the Phantom Zone. So he’s not 100% at the start of his fight with Zod. So I think maybe 9-A+, possibly 8-C might work.
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Ok, this one has to be 8-C.
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Maybe, maybe not
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Ok so are we using the mountain top feat or what?
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I wonder if there are any feats from the references page that we can apply.
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Falling from great heights is one (i.e. the mountaintop feat but excluding the mountaintop's destruction), but it's only 9-B
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Hmmm, can we use any KE feats? Or has anyone demonstrated destroying a plane? Or melting a car with Heat Vision? If they've done any of these, we can get 8-C
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Not gonna be anything beyond 9-A
He melted part of a police car after his resurrection. But at that point, he fully scales above High 6-C, so there's no point
Next best thing I can find is that an average Kryptonian can annihilate half a city and all its inhabitants in under half an hour
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Ok, so they said that average Kryptonians can take down four skyscrapers in less time than it takes to tell. The way I see it, it likely means they're destroying them before people could even notice it, or telling others to evacuate before it's too late. So I think we can use this. And possibly add 4x to it.
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Not sure about adding 4x, but using that calc should be good
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Makes sense, so which end should we go for?
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To be safe, the 8-A end is likely best.
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Aight, so till we get calcs for Supes mountain top busting, I think we can use these and call it day?
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Eh, idk about that. Isn’t that supposed to be a fully adapted kryptonian?
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Well, it says there "the actual capabilities of an average male Kryptonian, based on the data from the attack of Metropolis".
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Then that’s not usable since that’s post smallville fight
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No idea
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If you go back far enough on Superman or Zod's pages you should find a calc of their shockwave clash. Faora and Nam-Ek should scale to that afaik.
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Since Superman was canonically weakened the entire with Zod, I don't think he'd downscale from the World Engine.
So I'd say just make Zod 8-B and we scale Faora and Nam-Ek to that with an "At most" rating, since Superman attacked Zod full force and then went off to fight them.
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Then yeah that works.
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Wait, why are we downgrading Zod as well?
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Zod also doesn't scale to Superman.
Superman had canonically been nerfed for a lot of his fights.
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Since this simulation due to data on the attack on Metropolis would be from a weakened Superman and General Zod, could they scale to 8-A since an average male Kryptonian can destroy four skyscrapers in less time than it takes for people to tell?
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That should probably be fine as a likely rating.
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Alright then. I guess I'll apply the changes. This can probably be closed
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This took over a year, it can finally be put to rest
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Thank god, and don’t forget to put the adaption thing or power growth
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@Dalesean027 just calced destroying a mountain's tip feat
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So maybe Superman could scale to it
Destroying a mountains tip
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First version got accepted, so 8-A it is.@Dalesean027 just calced destroying a mountain's tip feat
So maybe Superman could scale to itDestroying a mountains tip
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