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Just curious, but what about Supes and Zod’s casual clash which I think yielded 8-C.Well, at the very least, we have a 9-A calc for Superman moving part of a cloud, so if the mountaintop feat or the silos feats aren't calced, we could also just use this first.
Imagine DCEU Superman being weaker thanMCU She-Hulklmao
Haven't watched Man of Steel in a long time. But the feat happened quite a bit later into the movie, no? And tbh, I think General Zod at that point should just be scaling/downscaling from the World Engine feat. But maybe I'm wrongJust curious, but what about Supes and Zod’s casual clash which I think yielded 8-C.
It’s an extremely casual feat by Supes right after he resists the pull of the Phantom Zone. So he’s not 100% at the start of his fight with Zod. So I think maybe 9-A+, possibly 8-C might work.Haven't watched Man of Steel in a long time. But the feat happened quite a bit later into the movie, no? And tbh, I think General Zod at that point should just be scaling/downscaling from the World Engine feat. But maybe I'm wrong
Maybe, unless the mountaintop or silo feats grant higher stuffIt’s an extremely casual feat by Supes right after he resists the pull of the Phantom Zone. So he’s not 100% at the start of his fight with Zod. So I think maybe 9-A+, possibly 8-C might work.
Ok, this one has to be 8-C.
We just need these two feats to be calced, and then we're goodOk so are we using the mountain top feat or what?
Worst comes to worst:
we have a 9-A calc for Superman moving part of a cloud
Shouldn't they upscale massively from an armored Batman who can contend with a weakened Superman which is 9-A+?
Falling from great heights is one (i.e. the mountaintop feat but excluding the mountaintop's destruction), but it's only 9-BI wonder if there are any feats from the references page that we can apply.
Hmmm, can we use any KE feats? Or has anyone demonstrated destroying a plane? Or melting a car with Heat Vision? If they've done any of these, we can get 8-CFalling from great heights is one (i.e. the mountaintop feat but excluding the mountaintop's destruction), but it's only 9-B
Not gonna be anything beyond 9-AHmmm, can we use any KE feats?
He melted part of a police car after his resurrection. But at that point, he fully scales above High 6-C, so there's no pointOr has anyone demonstrated destroying a plane? Or melting a car with Heat Vision?
Ok, so they said that average Kryptonians can take down four skyscrapers in less time than it takes to tell. The way I see it, it likely means they're destroying them before people could even notice it, or telling others to evacuate before it's too late. So I think we can use this. And possibly add 4x to it.Next best thing I can find is that an average Kryptonian can annihilate half a city and all its inhabitants in under half an hour
Not sure about adding 4x, but using that calc should be goodOk, so they said that average Kryptonians can take down four skyscrapers in less time than it takes to tell. The way I see it, it likely means they're destroying them before people could even notice it, or telling others to evacuate before it's too late. So I think we can use this. And possibly add 4x to it.
Makes sense, so which end should we go for?Not sure about adding 4x, but using that calc should be good
To be safe, the 8-A end is likely best.Makes sense, so which end should we go for?
Aight, so till we get calcs for Supes mountain top busting, I think we can use these and call it day?To be safe, the 8-A end is likely best.
Well, it says there "the actual capabilities of an average male Kryptonian, based on the data from the attack of Metropolis".Eh, idk about that. Isn’t that supposed to be a fully adapted kryptonian?
Then that’s not usable since that’s post smallville fightDunno. It just says there "the average capabilities of an average male Kryptonian, based on the data from the attack of Metropolis"
No ideaWell shit. Guess we have to continue playing the waiting game for those calcs
Honestly what are the chances they ever get made?
This one? We briefly talked about it earlier and it's still undecided. But scaling them to the 9-A calcs should be alright, yes?If you go back far enough on Superman or Zod's pages you should find a calc of their shockwave clash. Faora and Nam-Ek should scale to that afaik.
Haven't watched Man of Steel in a long time. But the feat happened quite a bit later into the movie, no? And tbh, I think General Zod at that point should just be scaling/downscaling from the World Engine feat. But maybe I'm wrong
It’s an extremely casual feat by Supes right after he resists the pull of the Phantom Zone. So he’s not 100% at the start of his fight with Zod. So I think maybe 9-A+, possibly 8-C might work.
Since Superman was canonically weakened the entire with Zod, I don't think he'd downscale from the World Engine.We briefly talked about it earlier and it's still undecided
Fair enoughSince Superman was canonically weakened the entire with Zod, I don't think he'd downscale from the World Engine.
Verse page says that the 8-C end was acceptedSo I'd say just make Zod 8-B
Agreedwe scale Faora and Nam-Ek to that with an "At most" rating, since Superman attacked Zod full force and then went off to fight them.
Zod also doesn't scale to Superman.why are we downgrading Zod as well?
Superman had canonically been nerfed for a lot of his fights.A toppling skyscraper clipped him on its way down, swatting him to Earth. He crashed into a deserted street a few blocks beyond the circle of destruction.
This can’t go on, he thought. The whole city is coming down on top of us.
He staggered to his feet, reeling. He had been going nonstop for hours now, first against the World Machine, then the singularity, and now Zod. He needed a moment to recharge.
But Zod gave him no respite. He hoisted a stretch limousine above his head and heaved it at Superman, who dodged the car with only nanoseconds to spare. It smashed into the foundations of a looming multi-level carport, and exploded on impact.
Since this simulation due to data on the attack on Metropolis would be from a weakened Superman and General Zod, could they scale to 8-A since an average male Kryptonian can destroy four skyscrapers in less time than it takes for people to tell?Zod also doesn't scale to Superman.
Superman had canonically been nerfed for a lot of his fights.
Alright then. I guess I'll apply the changes. This can probably be closedThat should probably be fine as a likely rating.
This took over a year, it can finally be put to restAlright then. I guess I'll apply the changes. This can probably be closed
First version got accepted, so 8-A it is.@Dalesean027 just calced destroying a mountain's tip feat
So maybe Superman could scale to itDestroying a mountains tip
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