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Dceu faora and Nam-ek should not scale to Clark

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At this point its just whenever someone gets the Mountain feat calced.
 
The_one_you_least_expect said:
I don’t believe that faora or nam-ek should scale to Superman’s World engine feat or any of his other feats later on in MoS(mostly after the smallville fight)or BvS. The reason for this is because Clark has gotten stronger over time since he started using his powers and had massively improved by the end of MoS.


One of the reasons is this.



(0:38)
It is stated by jor-el to keep on testing Clark’s limits to see how strong he truly is(and we’ll get) and this seems to be the case seeing as Clark started out pretty weak in MoS and gradually got better feats even in the same film.
At first even before he gains his ability to fly, he struggles to lift an oil rig and is seemly KOed after it fell on top of him



(1:40)

But after he gains his flight and starts really trying out and testing his powers for the first time he shrugs off crashing through a mountain top



(1:17)

Which I think is a better durability feat then having part of an oil rig fall on you and gets KOed, but it doesn’t end there. In Clark’s smallville fight he gets a couple of low ends. For one Clark is downed for a bit by a gas line explosion



(1:16)

The clark and namek get KOed by a-10 fire

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Then Clark gets downed by a train(albiet it it was thrown be man-el so eh) and then he gets knocked down and gets hurt so badly by the scot ship blasters that zod’s goons are able to drag zod back to the scout ship with Clark doing nothing but laying down in pain

(2:14)

and this blasters kinda suck, they couldn’t even destroy this planes propellers and could only ignite them

https://youtu.be/CFINnkBvC2M
(4:26)

But then after that Clark starts getting better feats after using his powers more like his famous world engine feat

https://youtu.be/jSjI7gwuKtg


After this we get into BvS. Superman pretty much no-sells a drone strike which while isn’t amazing it’s batter then getting hurt by some scout ship blasters
https://youtu.be/xpOAGlncHSc

(1:55)

Then we start seeing him pulling a giant ass ship through ice that’s flipped over and doing it seemingly causally

https://youtu.be/PxcXyK2_CzM

(0:39)

While this isn’t exactly a lifting feat this is still a massive improvement from struggling to lift part of an oil rig. Much later after this he goes on to no-sell the capital explosion

https://youtu.be/OVpGII166Fk

Not super impressive but definitely above some of his low ends in MoS. Then of course there’s Bruce preparing to fight Superman and needing kryptinate to put the boy Scott down instead of say an A-10 cannon or cruise missile which I think we all know he has more then enough money and power to get or create. Seeing as how powerful the man of steel has become in 2 years

https://youtu.be/8ixaEnZHtH8

there’s also the fact that it’s stated that Clark stronger as he gets older
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Anyways I think I’ve made my point, what do you guys think?
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I think their profile should say something like potentially whatever Clark’s prime feats are after all they have the same physiology and will get stronger just like he did.
 
Zod is stated to have fought Superman at his peak during Man of Steel for what it’s worth:
“There’s one shot where Zod hits Superman up the side of the building. Superman is hovering above. Zod starts running up the side of the building. This is just before he rips his armour off and is taking in more of the sun’s energy. Superman flies down to hit him and the two of them collide causing that shockwave. DJ and Zack were both really keen to make it feel like two Gods were fighting, and they were at the height of their powers right then.”
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Man of Steel vfx milestones

Breaking down the biggest scenes in Man of Steel - Krypton's comms, the Smallville confrontation and the destruction of Metropolis.
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Fastestthingalive50 said:
Zod is stated to have fought Superman at his peak during Man of Steel for what it’s worth:
www.fxguide.com

Man of Steel vfx milestones

Breaking down the biggest scenes in Man of Steel - Krypton's comms, the Smallville confrontation and the destruction of Metropolis.
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That’s all good but we have concrete statements Supes was fatigued here so he wouldn’t be at his highest capacity. At most you can say he’s at his peak but isn’t able to operate at that level in this fight
 
Hellbeast said:
That’s all good but we have concrete statements Supes was fatigued here so he wouldn’t be at his highest capacity. At most you can say he’s at his peak but isn’t able to operate at that level in this fight
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True, it can be similar to how boxers can be at their peak, but injuries or fatigue can affect their performance.
 
That’s my take and don’t forget Zod is clearly the better CQC combatant
At best I think Zod would get likely High 6-C or something
 
Hellbeast said:
That’s all good but we have concrete statements Supes was fatigued here so he wouldn’t be at his highest capacity. At most you can say he’s at his peak but isn’t able to operate at that level in this fight
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The guidebook states that superman doesn’t get tired iirc
 
Qawsedf234 said:
The closest thing I can find is this scan. But its just saying that Superman can effortless lift thousands of tons, not that he has infinite endurance.
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You missed the last line. It explicitly says this:

"And he can do it all again and again without ever getting tired."

Basically stating he can rep thousands of tons repeatedly over his head without ever straining himself out.
 
KLOL506 said:
Basically stating he can rep thousands of tons repeatedly over his head without ever straining himself out.
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Yeah, that's what I said with this part
effortless lift thousands of tons
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But we know from other material and the movies themselves he can strain himself and can get fatigued. Its just that he won't do so from doing stuff like "only" lifting a couple thousands tons.
 
Yeah that just implies he doesn't get tired from lifting such heavy weights, not that he has infiite stamina
 
Qawsedf234 said:
Yeah, that's what I said with this part

But we know from other material and the movies themselves he can strain himself and can get fatigued. Its just that he won't do so from doing stuff like "only" lifting a couple thousands tons.
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Iirc the only time he ever gets tired is world engine stuff and we know that it weakened him.
 
sageof8paths said:
Iirc the only time he ever gets tired is world engine stuff and we know that it weakened him
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World Engine and the Phantom Zone portal weakened him, along with multiple hours of constant activity.

Like his endurance is absurdly high, just not infinite.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
World Engine and the Phantom Zone portal weakened him, along with multiple hours of constant activity.

Like his endurance is absurdly high, just not infinite.
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Genuine question, when is it ever stated that multiple hours of constant activity weakened him? From what I understand Under normal circumstances it’s quite literally impossible for him to get tired bc his cells will just recharge itself
 
sageof8paths said:
Genuine question, when is it ever stated that multiple hours of constant activity weakened him?
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It was in combination with the other stuff
A toppling skyscraper clipped him on its way down, swatting him to Earth. He crashed into a deserted street a few blocks beyond the circle of destruction.

This can’t go on, he thought. The whole city is coming down on top of us.

He staggered to his feet, reeling. He had been going nonstop for hours now, first against the World Machine, then the singularity, and now Zod. He needed a moment to recharge.

But Zod gave him no respite. He hoisted a stretch limousine above his head and heaved it at Superman, who dodged the car with only nanoseconds to spare. It smashed into the foundations of a looming multi-level carport, and exploded on impact.
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Just curious, but wouldn't this work?
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References for Common Feats

Throughout fiction and real life, there have been numerous feats demonstrating a certain character's or object's destructive power. This page's purpose is to consolidate calculations for those feats for better convenience in determining an object's or character's Attack Potency or Durability...
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RanaProGamer said:
Just curious, but wouldn't this work?
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References for Common Feats

Throughout fiction and real life, there have been numerous feats demonstrating a certain character's or object's destructive power. This page's purpose is to consolidate calculations for those feats for better convenience in determining an object's or character's Attack Potency or Durability...
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I'm pretty sure that calc is for destroying the WHOLE mountain, not just its top like what happened with Superman
 
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