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He wobbles a bit after he throws it off, looks dazed to me.
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9-B Superman.He got dazed by a car falling on him during the Zod fight, iirc, so judging his durability from scene to scene through the movie is pretty impossible.
he throws it off and immediately gets kicked by zod. I don’t see any wobblingHe wobbles a bit after he throws it off, looks dazed to me.
I don’t believe that faora or nam-ek should scale to Superman’s World engine feat or any of his other feats later on in MoS(mostly after the smallville fight)or BvS. The reason for this is because Clark has gotten stronger over time since he started using his powers and had massively improved by the end of MoS.
One of the reasons is this.
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It is stated by jor-el to keep on testing Clark’s limits to see how strong he truly is(and we’ll get) and this seems to be the case seeing as Clark started out pretty weak in MoS and gradually got better feats even in the same film.
At first even before he gains his ability to fly, he struggles to lift an oil rig and is seemly KOed after it fell on top of him
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But after he gains his flight and starts really trying out and testing his powers for the first time he shrugs off crashing through a mountain top
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Which I think is a better durability feat then having part of an oil rig fall on you and gets KOed, but it doesn’t end there. In Clark’s smallville fight he gets a couple of low ends. For one Clark is downed for a bit by a gas line explosion
(1:16)
The clark and namek get KOed by a-10 fire
Then Clark gets downed by a train(albiet it it was thrown be man-el so eh) and then he gets knocked down and gets hurt so badly by the scot ship blasters that zod’s goons are able to drag zod back to the scout ship with Clark doing nothing but laying down in pain
(2:14)
and this blasters kinda suck, they couldn’t even destroy this planes propellers and could only ignite them
https://youtu.be/CFINnkBvC2M
(4:26)
But then after that Clark starts getting better feats after using his powers more like his famous world engine feat
https://youtu.be/jSjI7gwuKtg
After this we get into BvS. Superman pretty much no-sells a drone strike which while isn’t amazing it’s batter then getting hurt by some scout ship blasters
https://youtu.be/xpOAGlncHSc
(1:55)
Then we start seeing him pulling a giant ass ship through ice that’s flipped over and doing it seemingly causally
https://youtu.be/PxcXyK2_CzM
(0:39)
While this isn’t exactly a lifting feat this is still a massive improvement from struggling to lift part of an oil rig. Much later after this he goes on to no-sell the capital explosion
https://youtu.be/OVpGII166Fk
Not super impressive but definitely above some of his low ends in MoS. Then of course there’s Bruce preparing to fight Superman and needing kryptinate to put the boy Scott down instead of say an A-10 cannon or cruise missile which I think we all know he has more then enough money and power to get or create. Seeing as how powerful the man of steel has become in 2 years
https://youtu.be/8ixaEnZHtH8
there’s also the fact that it’s stated that Clark stronger as he gets older
Anyways I think I’ve made my point, what do you guys think?
That’s all good but we have concrete statements Supes was fatigued here so he wouldn’t be at his highest capacity. At most you can say he’s at his peak but isn’t able to operate at that level in this fightZod is stated to have fought Superman at his peak during Man of Steel for what it’s worth:
Man of Steel vfx milestones
Breaking down the biggest scenes in Man of Steel - Krypton's comms, the Smallville confrontation and the destruction of Metropolis.www.fxguide.com
True, it can be similar to how boxers can be at their peak, but injuries or fatigue can affect their performance.That’s all good but we have concrete statements Supes was fatigued here so he wouldn’t be at his highest capacity. At most you can say he’s at his peak but isn’t able to operate at that level in this fight
The guidebook states that superman doesn’t get tired iircThat’s all good but we have concrete statements Supes was fatigued here so he wouldn’t be at his highest capacity. At most you can say he’s at his peak but isn’t able to operate at that level in this fight
The closest thing I can find is this scan. But its just saying that Superman can effortless lift thousands of tons, not that he has infinite endurance.Do you have scans for that?
You missed the last line. It explicitly says this:The closest thing I can find is this scan. But its just saying that Superman can effortless lift thousands of tons, not that he has infinite endurance.
Yeah, that's what I said with this partBasically stating he can rep thousands of tons repeatedly over his head without ever straining himself out.
But we know from other material and the movies themselves he can strain himself and can get fatigued. Its just that he won't do so from doing stuff like "only" lifting a couple thousands tons.effortless lift thousands of tons
Iirc the only time he ever gets tired is world engine stuff and we know that it weakened him.Yeah, that's what I said with this part
But we know from other material and the movies themselves he can strain himself and can get fatigued. Its just that he won't do so from doing stuff like "only" lifting a couple thousands tons.
World Engine and the Phantom Zone portal weakened him, along with multiple hours of constant activity.Iirc the only time he ever gets tired is world engine stuff and we know that it weakened him
Genuine question, when is it ever stated that multiple hours of constant activity weakened him? From what I understand Under normal circumstances it’s quite literally impossible for him to get tired bc his cells will just recharge itselfWorld Engine and the Phantom Zone portal weakened him, along with multiple hours of constant activity.
Like his endurance is absurdly high, just not infinite.
It was in combination with the other stuffGenuine question, when is it ever stated that multiple hours of constant activity weakened him?
A toppling skyscraper clipped him on its way down, swatting him to Earth. He crashed into a deserted street a few blocks beyond the circle of destruction.
This can’t go on, he thought. The whole city is coming down on top of us.
He staggered to his feet, reeling. He had been going nonstop for hours now, first against the World Machine, then the singularity, and now Zod. He needed a moment to recharge.
But Zod gave him no respite. He hoisted a stretch limousine above his head and heaved it at Superman, who dodged the car with only nanoseconds to spare. It smashed into the foundations of a looming multi-level carport, and exploded on impact.
He has been battling for hours with those things making him weaker is what made him tired.It was in combination with the other stuff
Nope. The thread just kinda died because no one wanted to calc Superman's mountaintop featDid this ever go threw?
OhNope. The thread just kinda died because no one wanted to calc Superman's mountaintop feat
Well, I got the noti, but yeah i think my initial response was agreement.Well hopefully people start coming back so we can finish this crt
Everyone agreed, but then everyone kinda just forgot about the threadWell, I got the noti, but yeah i think my initial response was agreement.
I'm pretty sure that calc is for destroying the WHOLE mountain, not just its top like what happened with SupermanJust curious, but wouldn't this work?
References for Common Feats
Throughout fiction and real life, there have been numerous feats demonstrating a certain character's or object's destructive power. This page's purpose is to consolidate calculations for those feats for better convenience in determining an object's or character's Attack Potency or Durability...vsbattles.fandom.com
YepHas anyone requested a calc yet for the feat?
Damn, since April?