DC Rating Revamp Project (Why 4-B is wrong whether or not it's an upgrade or downgrade)

[Firestorm808]

@Antvasima

Let's have the numbers ready before we start divvying up eras and keys.

 

[Greenshifter]

Durability going down is just stupid. Superman would have no reason to do that other than that specific instance where he made it appear like he was hurt.

It would explain how sometimes he appears weaker than say Shazam and other times stronger. Again him holding back is a subconscious thing and him holding back AP will also be related to him holding back dura, so it makes sense even if there is no direct reason for it.

 

[Antvasima]

@Antvasima

Let's have the numbers ready before we start divvying up eras and keys.

Okay. That is fine with me.

 

[Teezar]

Regarding the statistical analysis, I'd appreciate any help in translating items from my Superman feat timeline into the calculations spreadsheet.

Wow,this consists of numbers of superman feats varies from 5B,5A,high 5A and mostly consists of low 4C,4C and 4B with two 4A feats and 4 or more low 2-C and 2-C feats for superman post-crisis amazing.
And you scaled boomtube amps with unknown but I agree with the blog.

 

[Teezar]

You know what will get us the most reliable statistics for someone like Superman?

Varies or unknown based on the story.

 

[Antvasima]

Regarding the statistical analysis, I'd appreciate any help in translating items from my Superman feat timeline into the calculations spreadsheet.

This is absolutely excellent. Thank you very much for your hard work.

It would be much preferable if you use a wiki sandbox though.

@The_Impress @Amelia_Lonelyheart

Would you be willing to use relevant parts from this for your revision please?

 

[Jasonsith]

Given how messy stories and standings and "seriousness" of Post-Crisis Superman and Post-Flashpoint Superman are, instead of finding a minimum for Superman, we should find a maximum potential of Superman and call off that level a likely standing of Superman, adding a "likely far higher".

And we should continue to investigate feats by non-Superman DC herald or skyfather characters.

 

[The_Impress]

This is absolutely excellent. Thank you very much for your hard work.

It would be much preferable if you use a wiki sandbox though.

@The_Impress @Amelia_Lonelyheart

Would you be willing to use relevant parts from this for your revision please?

Fine, we can close this btw

 

[Da_Lunge_Fish]

It would explain how sometimes he appears weaker than say Shazam and other times stronger. Again him holding back is a subconscious thing and him holding back AP will also be related to him holding back dura, so it makes sense even if there is no direct reason for it.

Holding back dura is nonsensical. Clark has a reason to hold back Attack Potency, but not durability

 

[Antvasima]

Fine, we can close this btw

If you wish to postpone this project until you are ready with preparations, that is fine with me.

Do the rest of the staff and knowledgeable members here find it acceptable if I close this thread?

 

[Jasonsith]

If you wish to postpone this project until you are ready with preparations, that is fine with me.

Do the rest of the staff and knowledgeable members here find it acceptable if I close this thread?

Are we going to reopen it once all the scaling is done? Without changing anything at the profiles yet right now?

Given how messy Superman feats are, maybe we should look at whether feats by other characters are just as stupid and fluctuating.

 

[Antvasima]

Impress and Amelia are planning to start a DC Comics revision (for the non-cosmic characters as a whole) after they have finished with their preparations, and have apparently agreed to use the information that Firestorm808 found.

 

[Jasonsith]

Impress and Amelia are planning to start a DC Comics revision (for the non-cosmic characters at a whole) after they have finished with their preparations, and have apparently agreed to use the information that Firestorm808 found.

I am fine with this.

Just... I would like @Firestorm808 to make sure to also look at feats by members other than Superman, Flash, Green Lantern and Wonder Woman.

Also, maybe one wishes to make a table of important battles of which character at which key phase fights against which character at which key phase. This will really give a good idea of how scaling actually goes.

 

[Antvasima]

I would also appreciate if @The_Impress and @Amelia_Lonelyheart collaborate with @Firestorm808 for their project to be as good as possible.

 

[The_Impress]

So by proxy team up with Fan

We'll see

 

[Antvasima]

You would not have to interact with Fan, and Firestorm808 is very well-mannered and hard-working with doing research on his own. They are very different people.

I just think that it would be a shame for all of his research work in this area to possibly go to waste.

 

[The_Impress]

Anyways I'll close this