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Yeah okay....so we are on same page.
Yeah but this 2C structure is contained inside a hypertimeline......
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DBH Revision?
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Rez
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I don't wanna be part of this debate just correcting something here there are gonna be timelines with 18 universes as well so dbh time lines will have 12-18 universes
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After Glivers clarification of the argument, I agree in principle that the “hyper timeline” as described in our interaction would constitute a low 1-C object.
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Sorry dub was only what found on spot...
So anyway...
This video tells us about the "multiverse"( which in context here is the macroverse of U1-U12 presently)
Lets breakdown some chronology of events in the macroverse....
1) Some unknown past--- 18 Universes existed( each universe is 4D)
2) at some unkown point 6 of them were erased....
3) presently we have 12 universes..
4) At some point Zeno from Future Trunks Timeline( which is another macroverse parallel to present "hyper timeline") came to present timeline with Goku and Future Trunks with the help of Time Machine.
In this reality Infinite Zamasu had become one with U7 but Zeno just straight up erased entire macroverse or hypertimeline.
5) Future Trunks and Mai gets sent to another macroverse entirely....
6) Tournament of Power happens down the line which holds fate of every universe in present macroverse.....and Both Present Zeno and Future Zeno reside over it.
Tldr;
Each hypertimeline has a past, present and future....
Each 4D universe in it is treated as if it were akin to a 3D object in a normal timeline.
This displays Hypertimeline's Inaccessible infinite superiority over 4D constructs....making it a 5D timeline.
Each hypertimeline has a time ring correseponding to it. There are formally known 7 if I remember correctly....one of which was erased by Zeno....and one of which was newly created by Whis for Future Trunks and Mai to reside in.
And each hypertimeline aggregate to form a larger Multiverse....making this larger multiverse a 5D multiverse.
And this 5D Multiverse is focus of games like Xenoverse and anime/manga series of DBH.
So anyone who has anything to do with destruction or absorption of this multiverse like Mechikabura and anyone who scales become 5D or Low1C.
Anyone can correct me if I am wrong anywhere or ask any doubts in my post they may have.....I'll reciprocate respectively.
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Yeah, it would be nice.
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Basically to put it simply if dbh is 1-c or not
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What's being debated is if the timelines are going to be 5D or not
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Basically yeah ...... in a nutshell
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This is....literally the premise of the thread.
I mean, what contentions did Ultima have in particular and does he still have them.
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For some reason I feel optimistic that this will get accepted........
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I too for some reasonFor some reason I feel optimistic that this will get accepted........
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Lmfao, I agree
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Wait, just realized something.
Even if you get 5-D or 6-D out of this, don’t they have to be proven to be infinitely superior to each other to qualify as an upgrade?
Even if you get 5-D or 6-D out of this, don’t they have to be proven to be infinitely superior to each other to qualify as an upgrade?
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What do you mean by "they"?
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The timeline that would be surrounding the lesser timelines.
Hasty12345
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Not in this case as I believe the logic is the same as the difference between a 3-A structure and low 2-C, what you're effectively asking is "prove destroying a timeline is greater than a 3-A structure". This is due to how the 5D hyper-timeline argument is constructed.
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Ofc you would jump into the bandwagon.
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I’m not sure that’s quite the same here, correct me if I’m wrong.
Because if the timeline that surrounds the lesser timelines becomes 5-D or 6-D somehow, that would be assuming it’s an entire dimension superior to them.
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That was already a given
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5d i think
Hasty12345
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it's not "surrounding" them, the "hyper-timeline" is built from an uncountably infinite snapshots of a 2-C structure.
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“Surround” was the wrong word for it but you know what I meant by that.
The big timeline contains the smaller ones.
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It more or less is the same. We know that destroying a timeline is equivalent to uncountably infinite instances of 3-dimensional universe destruction, right?
Replace the galaxies in that 3-dimensional universe with timelines and that's basically what a hypertimeline entails.
That said, it has to be proven that they're part of this timestream as opposed to simply being contained in a space-time of higher volume. Which is what this thread aims to prove.
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The hypertimeline already treats the 4D universes in it as 4D timeline would treat a 3D object.
Hence hypertimeline is 5D
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It being 5-D or not in the first place wasn’t what my point was about.
It’s if the hypertimelines 5-D would be infinitely superior to the 4-D objects inside of itself as that would be the only way you’d get an upgrade out of it.
And I’m unsure if it’s plausible to assume it would be without something proving it, as we normally require for higher-D based feats.
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Well, this is destroying an uncountably infinite number of universes, just done in an unconventional way. Which does count according to the tiering system.
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I try to prove such in this post of mine......
Post no. 165
Hope this helps
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but isnt it about a 5d upgrade?
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Low 1-C is not necessarily 5D
But the ideia of the discussion is timeline = 5D
But the ideia of the discussion is timeline = 5D
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Low 1-C isn't 5-dimensional by default, I thought we cleared this up since like, 2019.
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we haven't used dimensional tiering since 2019,i think
+ Low 1-C can just be uncountably infinite universes
+ Low 1-C can just be uncountably infinite universes
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so no 5D?
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