DBH Revision?

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Seems uncontroversial enough, I agree.

You kiddin’?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Don’t we accept IZ already having merged with the entirety of Future Trunks’ timeline, which is why Zeno destroyed the whole timeline?

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Don’t we accept IZ already having merged with the entirety of Future Trunks’ timeline, which is why Zeno destroyed the whole timeline?

Nah just the Future U7. Zeno is a trigger happy asshole

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Don’t we accept IZ already having merged with the entirety of Future Trunks’ timeline, which is why Zeno destroyed the whole timeline?

Zen'o nuked the timeline before he did, hence why the "would eventually become 2-C" key

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Don’t we accept IZ already having merged with the entirety of Future Trunks’ timeline, which is why Zeno destroyed the whole timeline?

What are you suggesting Mav?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

What are you suggesting Mav?

I want Low 1-C DBS

 

[Planck69]

@AKM sama, @Antvasima, @Elizhaa, @DarkDragonMedeus, @Theglassman12

Any input would be appreciated.

 

[CR_Catinho]

The reasoning is irrelevant to the number of universes though, only the relationship of whatever universes are present in comparison to an overarching timeline.

Well i guess we can do is wait for someone knowledgeable to explain this and give his input

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Low 1-C DBS

Thought so

I'm ok with that, but I'm against scaling them to IZ if that's the case

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Lord have mercy on our souls......

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Thought so

I'm ok with that, but I'm against scaling them to IZ if that's the case

I mean IZ only succesfully merged with one universe so they would just scale to him, not his full form

 

[VinnyXD]

Oh boy

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Thought so

I'm ok with that, but I'm against scaling them to IZ if that's the case

Only Zen'o would in DBS, don't worry

 

[Planck69]

Thought so

I'm ok with that, but I'm against scaling them to IZ if that's the case

Nobody at all would scale to Low 1-C except Zeno and eventual Infinite Zamasu if this goes through.

Anyway, let's keep needless discussion to a minimum and wait for other knowledgeable members to give input.

 

[Antvasima]

@Ultima_Reality

Would you be willing to evaluate if the logic of this upgrade properly holds up please?

 

[Planck69]

Guys, let's stay on topic please.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Gonna be honest, the logic in how this reaches Low 1-C sounds very strange to me.

 

[Lormac_CC]

Gonna be honest, the logic in how this reaches Low 1-C sounds very strange to me.

You are not alone

 

[CR_Catinho]

Gonna be honest, the logic in how this reaches Low 1-C sounds very strange to me.

That's why we're waiting for ultima to clear things up

 

[Planck69]

It's admittedly unconventional but the logic itself makes sense.

We'll just wait for Ultima to clarify if DBH follows that logic.

 

[Thelastmlg]

I'm confused, wouldn't that upgrade every 2-A multiverse into low 1-C for the structure itself

I also don't understand the logic.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

We are basically considering a single timeline is 5D

There are infinite timelines

A random character from DBH is able to destroy the multiverse

This would make the characters have AP 6D, right? Because well, it is infinitely superior

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Fair. But I would like to post a comment from Executor when I showed this (the argument, not the thread) to him earlier:

That is strange because we could use that for really any multiverse of parallel universes being Low 1-C

After all the idea is that the universes' space-times are 4D and they exist in parallel, meaning that they need to be parallel across a fifth dimensional axis
So parallel universes/parallel timelines needs to have a 5D space-time

But we already accept that as being "at least an infinitesimal fifth dimension that isn't valid for large extra dimensional simply due to they existing"

And that’s where I basically stand on this right now.

 

[CR_Catinho]

We are basically considering a single timeline is 5D

There are infinite timelines

A random character from DBH is able to destroy the multiverse

This would make the characters have AP 6D, right?

I don't think so , no

 

[Thelastmlg]

Pretty sure we are considering the multiverse they are destroyung 5D, not each timeline, those being 4D would be the uncountable infinite that makes the feat 5D, that's what i understood.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

We are basically considering a single timeline is 5D

There are infinite timelines

A random character from DBH is able to destroy the multiverse

This would make the characters have AP 6D, right? Because well, it is infinitely superior

Just infinitely above baseline 5-D

 

[CR_Catinho]

That is strange because we could use that for really any multiverse of parallel universes being Low 1-C

After all the idea is that the universes' space-times are 4D and they exist in parallel, meaning that they need to be parallel across a fifth dimensional axis
So parallel universes/parallel timelines needs to have a 5D space-time

But we already accept that as being "at least an infinitesimal fifth dimension that isn't valid for large extra dimensional simply due to they existing"

This is basically what i said at the beginning but apparently it's irrelevant to the argument itself

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

This is basically what i said at the beginning but apparently it's irrelevant to the argument itself

The distance between universes is not the argument for 5-D used here thought, that's the problem

 

[Thelastmlg]

So we have 2 types of 2-A characters, those that destroy infinite universes, and those that destroy a multiverse containing infinite universes.

In this case, would this make the latter always low 1-C and above?

low 1-C anti monitor and homestuck god tiers let's go.

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

That is strange because we could use that for really any multiverse of parallel universes being Low 1-C

After all the idea is that the universes' space-times are 4D and they exist in parallel, meaning that they need to be parallel across a fifth dimensional axis
So parallel universes/parallel timelines needs to have a 5D space-time

But we already accept that as being "at least an infinitesimal fifth dimension that isn't valid for large extra dimensional simply due to they existing"

Not to be rude, but could you actually post an image of him saying this?

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

The distance between universes is not the argument for 5-D used here thought, that's the problem

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Not to be rude, but could you actually post an image of him saying this?

No prob, it’s okay.

 

[Planck69]

I'll point out that the argument isn't about 5-dimensional space at all. Nor does it apply to all multiverses.

There's an uncountably infinite amount of 3-dimensional universes in a timeline (one for each infinitesimal moment) and destroying this is Low 2-C.

Now, a timeline containing 4-dimensional space-time continuums would have an uncountably infinite number of 4-dimensional universes making up itself. So destroying it is Low 1-C.

Note that this only applies if a multiverse is specified to be a timeline in which lesser timelines are bound. Anything else is just a regular Tier 2 structure.

 

[CR_Catinho]

The distance between universes is not the argument for 5-D used here thought, that's the problem

Fair enough

 

[CR_Catinho]

I'll point out that the argument isn't about 5-dimensional space at all. Nor does it apply to all multiverses.

There's an uncountably infinite amount of 3-dimensional universes in a timeline and destroying this is Low 2-C.

Now, a timeline containing 4-dimensional space-time continuums would have an uncountably infinite number of 4-dimensional universes making up itself. So destroying it is Low 1-C.

Note that this only applies if a multiverse is specified to be a timeline in which lesser timelines are bound. Anything else is just a regular Tier 2 structure.

Ooooooooooooooh now i get what you mean

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Guys, would this affect the Crack of Time? It basically contains every timeline as mere crystal

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

I'll point out that the argument isn't about 5-dimensional space at all. Nor does it apply to all multiverses.

There's an uncountably infinite amount of 3-dimensional universes in a timeline (one for each infinitesimal moment) and destroying this is Low 2-C.

Now, a timeline containing 4-dimensional space-time continuums would have an uncountably infinite number of 4-dimensional universes making up itself. So destroying it is Low 1-C.

Note that this only applies if a multiverse is specified to be a timeline in which lesser timelines are bound. Anything else is just a regular Tier 2 structure.

Does DB fit this or no?

 

[Planck69]

Anyways, please people, stay on topic and to the point. This thread doesn't need to get overly long.

 

[Planck69]

Does DB fit this or no?

Based on what I understand, it should.

Let's all step back and wait for Ultima to clarify.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

The confusing issue present though is how a timeline containing lesser timelines reaches Low 1-C in the first place from what I gather from this.