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DB Toei revision
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It's in the OP Edit: its for GT and DBZ anime not manga or DBS
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Goku: あれ？ あの世にしては変なとこに来ちまったぞ｡
Huh? I've come to a strange place in Otherworld.
Pan: そこは 時空のはざまで 外からじゃ誰にも助けられないんですって！
That place is between space-times, no one can help you from the outside.
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I see
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This system is actually dumb, if this many supporters agree on it then it should definitely be applied, just because one staff member doesn’t agree doesn’t mean the entire thread should go to shit.
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it is my opinion that staff should be irrelevant in crts
DivineAura44
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The rules are the rules ig (which is why I wonder why this forum even has members in the first place sometimes.)
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Always has been.
Without the agreement of at least 3 staff, most CRT are not accepted. And that's, of course, for a "normal" verse. A verse as controversial as DB? Yeah, good luck.
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I've seen crts that have been passed with only 2 staff
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When it's minor stuff, sure. Even sometimes 1 can be enough depending how straightforward everything is.
But here we are talking one of the most (unnecessarily) controversial verses on the site, which is trying to get to a very high tier with what some people would consider questionable evidence. Why is it questionable to them? Not my place to argue or answer, but that's why this will never be accepted without staff support.
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Well, actually, I have to admit that DB is indeed is pretty much wanked outside the wiki. In Comicvine people don't stop using the Fallacy of Strenght>Hax. That's why I've seen threads in which some DB characters like Goku black were able to one shot Ywach, giving Goku resistances against Haxxes like Fate manipulation, CM, Reality warping, Mindhax, simply becouse "Hurr dur I'M StRoNgEr".
They even put DBS Goku at 5-D, they put Xeno at 8-D, and the like. We should stop acting like DB wank doesn't exist, in fact, is one of the worse on Internet platforms outside this wiki.
I've even seen a video on which Goku was able to defeat Anos Voldigoad, lol. And we know that he would never be able to.
As a DB fan, I recognize that my fandom is by far one of the worst in internet.
I think that's the reason why the Staff are so strict towards DB.
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we should not deny the truth (well as close to truth as you can get within this system) just because people wank things hard. this is an endless cycle i've noticed of people wanking something to high heaven, with those characters eventually getting heavily downplayed to hell and back due to the salty opposition. you never reach anywhere near truth due to this cycle. people just need to be honest and get past their bias, but that clearly will never happen.
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What other sites do is irrelevant to their decisions here. Is what people have done in the past, and the massive threads that have been done that gave it that status here. People attacking staff because of a perceived bias, when many of them have even stated DB is some of their favorite series (Akm is prime example); entire threads criticizing the entire site because of "rule changes because of DB" (which may or may not be unfounded ovo) and many many more.
Revising DB became a pain in the ass for the staff because we are a pain to deal with. We harvest what we sow.
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Should be noted, that's not exclusive to DB. All of the very popular series with very opinionated fanbase get that treatment.
When a majority of staff outright refuse to deal with a series out of sheer tiredness of dealing with its supporters and entire rules made to avoid it, you should get why stuff get so effed up.
When a majority of staff outright refuse to deal with a series out of sheer tiredness of dealing with its supporters and entire rules made to avoid it, you should get why stuff get so effed up.
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it's likely he's biased against GT, instead of DB as a whole. at least going solely off this topic. though the most bias mentioned here was in regards to Ant's mod bias.
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We shouldn't speculate about that. We don't know. And I, personally, don't care either way.
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This is 100% true. This happens to a lot of other verses. So all you can do is hope and pray your favorite verse isn’t wanked outside the wiki or else your verse will get yeeted.
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What other sites do still influences, you can't deny that DB got many haters in VSdebates becouse of how wanked is by a pretty much large portion of our fandom. And also the fact that many people from this wiki debates in other forums aswell.
You can't just try to cover the sun with one finger, you and I perfectly know that if Staff is biased is becouse some of these reasons.
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I don't and I don't claim to know.
However, no. What other sites do absolutely don't matter here.
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Can you summon other knowedgeble members here again before that? Including stuff, like Elizhaa and others.
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the Xeno wanked really kicked into full gear ironically BECAUSE of the upgrades here if you haven't noticed. so it's a cycle of upgrading, then downgrading or never upgrading a verse again because people got overhyped at the initial upgrades of a verse and went into full wank mode on other sites.
i don't know why they care, but the solution is simply not to.
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It does. Many people from here debate outside this wiki too.
It still influences them, becouse many of them are just tired to see this in other forums, that's why the Staff is so strict with DB in this wiki, to prevent those scaling chains.
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Oh yeah, should be said
I do agree with the thread ovo
I do agree with the thread ovo
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to be honest, DB get both wanked and downplayed at the same time, and other verse also the same, so just care about wanked aspect while ignore downplayed aspect is a bias by itself
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Exactly, but we have to recognize, that DB is one of the biggest fandoms on internet. And the one with one of the highest porcentage of wankers. You just can't deny that fact, there are more DB wankers than I Naruto's fanbase, One Piece's, MHA's, etc......
And most likely the Staff had bad experiances dealing with those kind of people, honestly, when there is a VS in Comicvine where a DB character fights a Weaker one, but Haxxy, and speed is equalized, I promise you I've seen most people agreeing that the DB character resists the Weaker one Haxxes simply becouse of the power gap.
I'm a DB fan, but c'mon, we also have to accept our failures and be honest with the truth.
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my favorite GT one was from many many years ago where a guy cited that Red Shenron was omnipotent and Goku resisting the age manipulation wish Pilaf made with SSJ4 gave him some resistances to omnipotence.
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I don't see the problem, it's true
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Don’t mean to be that guy, but this has gone off the rails kek.
DivineAura44
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Don't mean to be that guy? I was about to be that guy.
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Not true. The most extreme and fanatic trolls attacking me and this community have all been self-proclaimed Marvel and DC Comics fans. Dragon Ball fans can get biased and overenthusiastic, but I have yet to encounter any that I would qualify as outright sadistic and malevolent.
Anyway, we are derailing, and should return to the main topic.
Anyway, we are derailing, and should return to the main topic.
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agreed, tho staff approval would also be good for the CRT. However, if enough people agree with it and no good refutations have been made, then there's no point in just closing the thread
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well to get back on topic, this should be done with already and just be accepted. this has gone on for three pages with almost everyone except one guy agreeing with the upgrade, so you can't say i'm trying to rush this.
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By now 0 Staff agrees.
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Well, the thing is that our staff are supposed to act as quality control buffers for anything that might be unreliable, and AKM is one of our highest ranked and most reliable staff members.
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high rank =/= correctness, it is the value of one's opinions, not their rank which determines that.
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Our rules say that our staff should listen to the regular members and then try to evaluate the arguments and act as buffers if something seems unreliable. They have the final say. My apologies.
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